Mat Caird

So I used the create standard sheets command, with the predefined style "condoc C", scale 1:50, print area ISO A2.... The title block looks just how I want it, except it's slightly the wrong size (to be expected). So I switch layers to sheet-floorplan 1, and double click the drawing border, but "this object has no edit behaviour". ie, I can't resize it. So Robert, if the drawing border arch PIO is symbol based, where do I find and edit this symbol? Thanks. Mat.

Well Bruce, I use the setup assistant all the time. I am new to VW, and one of the main reasons I migrated to VW (from ACad), was for the setup assistant features. I have wasted time trying to understand how it all works etc, and have basically given up trying to fight it. Now if I wanna draw a bed on a floorplan, I use the create standard sheets coommand, and add the furn/equip plan sheet. It does mean I have TOO MANY layers and classes etc but what can you do? I did write a script to turn all classes on, and that way if I lose an object, at least I can find it again. One thing that bugs me the most though, is if I edit one of the standard sheets, then later on have to add another sheet use the create standard sheets command, all the other sheets are reset to the standard. I think there's a workaround for this (layermap thingy), but I'm trying to earn $1,000,000 this year...and mucking 'round isn't helping. For the NNa people to consider: The matrix does get VERY large...too large really. And I'm sure it would help everyone understand the setup commands if they were more thoroughly described in the user manual. Also, we need MORE CONTROL. We don't always want a seperate piece of paper showing furniture! It doesn't hurt the builder to see furniture on his working drawings! I note that the setup commands are much improved from VWA9 - Thanks you!

He's right you know: when you have a model of 2 floors and a basement, the ceiling height/slab thickness on floor 1 does look *wrong*. Compare it with a model of 1 floor and a basement, and then the diagram is self explanatory....

Thanks for replying Katie No the PIO objects that wont change are not inserted in anything. The PIo objects I have problems with include: drawing label & north arrow. If I copy them into a blank (default) drawing, the line thickness does change as required.

So if I insert the drawing title object into a blank document, I can adjust the line thickness in the normal, using the attributes pallette. But, on some of my drawings, I cannot adjust the line thickness. Any ideas? win2k, VWA10. Technique; Select the drawing label object, change the line thickness in the attributes pallette. Result; in some drawings it changes, in others it does not.

Actually, I flipped my profile object first, b4 extrude along path, and got the result I wanted.

Hi all I am trying to extrude along a path, and the profile object gets flipped, and ends up facing 'into' the center of the open polygon. ANy ideas? |YThanks in advance

Thanks for your reply Katie Yes the redlines class line is set to red. If I select the redline object, the attributes pallette shows pen as "class style", and the color swatch is red - yet the object is definitley black...Any further ideas? - Note that there are other colored lines on the drawing. I used your suggestion to class the PIO objects, and it is absolutely perfect of course. I set the door PIO to class Door-Main, and the Window PIO to class Window-Main (VWA10 - I woulda thought this would be done by NNA as part of the architect industry series??).

Being a relatively new user, I cannot work out why my Redlines (created with the redline tool) are black on the screen. I can't change 'em either. Note that other objects are colored correctly. Also, why do PIO's created from the Objects Pallette not go into an appropriate class - eg, windows should surely go into the Window-Main class??? And why, when I create a new wall time, and "assign to existing class", do they not go into the existing class I have assigned 'em. Thanks!

I have a drawing underway, and wish to add some extra sheets to it. I have modified the Iso borders but they are all working perfectly, the issue manager works fine etc. So I go into FILE | SETUP | DOCUMENT SETUP and ensure that the "use border settings as preferences when sheets are created" is ticked. Then I go to FILE | SETUP | CREATE STANDARD SHEETS and I attempt to add the sheet "Site Plan (General)". Use sheet border is ticked. In the sheets to be created dialog, I see all the existing sheets, plus the new one. They all have "w/border". So I press OK and the script runs, and removes all my borders from every sheet. So what is happening?

I would love to be able to edit the "issue manager" tool, but of course the script is locked. I read in an earlier post that NNA do not want to have to trouble-shoot erros caused by users such as myself, who tend to wreck things, then get confused and blame someone else (ie NNA). Hence locking the supplied scripts. So, why not "force" the user to duplicate the locked scripts before editing them - 4 lines of code at most? That way, both NNA and the users get what they want...

this might be way off track, but try this: Set "show lineweight" to on Pull the symbol/pio out of the wall If there is an "unhealed" wall join visible, heal it Reinsert the symbol as it was Voila! This just worked twice in a row for me, with a mysterious thick line appearing in a door PIO and a window symbol. Both times there was an "unhealed" wall join. Sounds like a bug of sorts

u can customise the right click menu in VW10 - it works very well.

Hi Is mod-slab-1 used to draw the floor for mod-floor-1? If yes, why does the setup commands put mod-slab-1 above the mod-floor-1 in the layer order, thus obscuring anything drawn on mod-floor-1? Thanks

The analogy is a piece of paper...it's the same size as the final plot will be. You "cut holes" in the paper to form the "viewports". You then "look through" the "viewport" to the cad model (building) behind. You can specify the scale at which to view the model. If the scale is 1:5 say, then obviously the entire model will not be seen through the viewport. You "pan" the model around so that only portion of the model you wish to print is visible through the viewport. You can can also specify the 3d view. I guess one big advantage is the ability to move the viewports around on the sheet without moving the actual model. I have noticed that since migrating to VW (from ACAD), I do produce more sheets per project. I think this is because I still haven't become truly comfortable with the multitude of layers and layerlinks required to produce a model.

my 2 cents: Viewports are good for having drawings of different scale on the same sheet, particularly details. EG, do a cross section, then lintle detail (over the window), and the footing detail. All three drawings fit easily on the same sheet. No opaque white masks. Also, I see a better way of organising elevations (4 per printed sheet): each viewport contains a layerlink to the 3d model, but from a different standard view (front, left, right etc). Any changes to the model automatically update on the elevation sheet. But I agree with you guys about not forcing a new paradigm onto experienced users. Viewports would be a great feature for Acad converts though. Note that not all acad users use the viewport functionality. Some are blissfully ignorant, and still produce good drawings.

The transition to VW10 from Acad is not really any different than VW9. The concepts of layers and 3d/2d are still the same. One thing I noted was the VW10 user manual was much better than the VW9 version. Maybe I understood more of the concepts after 4 months of exposure, or it may have better content. I suspect the content has improved. I made the switch in May this year, and feel more and more proficient all the time. I have so far done 2 houses, and a museum (albeit a small maritime building)- complete sets of documentation, as well as numerous other small jobs. It's working pretty well really, and the standard of presentaion coming out the office is SO MUCH better than what we could squeeze out of ACAD2000. Good luck.

yeah there's a number stamp tool - I think I added it to my workspace, but it's definitly there

Hi all I seem to have a problem with my muntins. They turn out like big blocks instead of muntins. The only way I can work out to fix 'em is not display them...which is unsatisfactory. Anyone else notced this?

Thanks for the offer Katie - not worth the hassel for either of us I think. What about telling the engineer to build some code that 'catches' an impending runtime error thus saving the time it takes to restart VW? Probably too many variables eh? Mat

win2k VWA10 I often get runtime errors editing roofs. I simply haven't got the time to try and reproduce the bug, but I am interested in what a runtime error is. Is it caused by a conflict with VW and a device driver? Is it code not ported properly from MAC OS? What else? Any insights would be appreciated.

there's a checkbox "show 3d detail" (for a lot of pios)in the oip. if this is unchecked, all you see in the 3d view is the hole....

here's what I would do (in VWA10) AEC|create roof from walls save your work go to top/plan view select the roof move the mouse toward one of the selction markers at the gable end - the pointer arrow changes to a hand left click choose "gable end" from the window exit save your work move the mouse arrow to the other end where you want the gable end do as above save your work I've found that it will crash more often than not, so save your work each time you do anythinG! There is also a "roof face" command, but u shouldn't need it to do as the picture in the link you posted.

I'm trying to draw a grid bubble in the (-)Y direction (ie down the screen). It looks great until I change anything in the OIP. If I change the text size, the grid lines stop pointing in the x direction, flip 90degress, and start pointing in the Y direction. What gives? Thanks in advance!

thanks Katie