mgries

I'm not so sure Keynote Legends need to be a typical Resource necessarily. I'd be happy to see the Notes Manager evolve into a much more robust tool, where you can easily SEARCH, FILTER, EDIT AND DISTRIBUTE ALL ASPECTS OF NOTES, including Legends. There are so many relationships at play, I feel notes need their own special environment. I guess this is all wish list stuff....while we're at it, I also wish there were an OIP checkbox for note callouts to produce the text "TYP." next to it.

Agreed. You should be able to name the keynote legend and then simply allow user to check off multiple sheets the legend appears on, similar to instances of section callout markers.

ugggggh. Doesn't that mean you would have to duplicate your Section/Elevation Viewport, one for a DLVP (to place your annotations accurately), and one for the official SLVP?

Am I to assume that most people have adopted the following callout tool/notes manager workflow: callouts are being placed in annotative viewports keynotes are being linked to "default legend" each legend on each sheet has an independent list with "N/A" gaps deleted. callouts are copied and pasted and re-edited on the fly to create new callouts Base on #4, no new notes are being added to a central database file. Based on #5, if you want to use the same keynote already used somewhere else, you have to into the first viewport, copy note, go out of viewport, maybe switch sheets, go into new viewport, and then paste. Personally, I've been trying to grow the central database as I go, and then create new callouts using the database each time, not copy & paste, which I think is how VW wants it to be used. My grief with doing it this way of course, is having to scroll through the non-user friendly database UI each time I drop a note. I just wish VW allowed you to see only the list of notes that are currently in use, whether centrally databased or not. I think it would make for a halfway decent workflow, and would reduce the reliance on a copy & paste workflow. It is my general understanding that BIM is continually pushing us away from copy & paste routines. p.s.- I would love someone to explain how the legend part of notes is supposed to work best. If you have 4 sheets of Elevations, are you NOT supposed to see the same list of notes on each sheet? Do you point all your Elevation notes to the same legend? The whole thing seems very slippery to me, which is one of the reasons I'm trying to stick to a central database. I think it's easier to coordinate multiple legends this way, but I'm still in the R&D phase on this. Am I going in the wrong direction? p.p.s. - "Align/Distribute Leader Lines" command is a great tool that further alleviates the age-old impulse to copy & paste existing callouts. You can move very quickly this way, when you don't have to worry about how neat your callouts look at first. thanks! mg

I've been getting more comfortable with Notes manager tool, but there's clearly a lot of improvements that are needed. The thing really frustrating me is this: I often take a series of notes from the database, modify these notes, and then populate a notes legend on my sheet based on the modified notes. This works well when creating the initial callout for a particular modified note. However, I don't see a clear way to "reuse" a modified note via the notes manager. Other than copying and pasting the particular callout annotation, what's the best way to repeatedly use the same callout number/reference as identified in the notes legend? Reusing the actual callout tool (which would be preferred) doesn't seem to provide a path to this. Am I missing something, or is this a wishlist issue? In the notes manager dialogue box, I'd expect to see the list of notes currently active on that sheet as a way to identify a new callout. Even if the notes weren't modified, and can therefore be reused from the master database, it would still be very helpful to see an "active notes" list to speed up selection. Thanks, Matt

I've been getting more comfortable with Notes manager tool, but there's clearly a lot of improvements that are needed. The thing really frustrating me is this: I often take a series of notes from the database, modify these notes, and then populate a notes legend on my sheet based on the modified notes. This works well when creating the initial callout for a particular modified note. However, I don't see a clear way to "reuse" this note via the notes manager. Other than copying and pasting the particular callout, what's the best way to repeatedly use the same callout number/reference as identified in the notes legend? Reusing the callout tool doesn't seem to provide a path to this. Am I missing something, or is this a wishlist issue? In the notes manager dialogue box, I'd expect to see the list of notes currently active on that sheet as a way to identify a new callout. Even if the notes weren't modified, and can therefore be reused from the master database, it would still be very helpful to see an "active notes" list to speed up selection. Thanks, Matt

forgive me...I got it to open on 2017 cheers!

Thanks DomC! This looks promising. I tried opening your attached file "circle stacking.vwx", but it won't open in 16 or 17. It may have gotten corrupted. Can you please resend? Thanks again! Matt

Wow...this is amazing work DomC! I am just getting acquainted with Marionette, and am wondering if I can apply something similar to what you've done to the following problem: I want to create a field of tightly packed circles, that grows in concentric rings, and is controlled by a bounding cirlce (or radius). The bounding circle functions through a series of fixed (seemingly random) radius lengths, each one representing the precise size when you can fit the next "ring" of circles within its boundary. In the following screen shots, n = number of total "rings" that constitute the overall field of packed circles. From one ring to the next, the field always grows in increments representing multiples of 6. I've shown examples up to the 20th ring, which happens to be the first ring where 18 new circles are added. At 20 rings out, the field contain 187 packed circles (counting circle "0" at the origin). I'd love to turn this into a marionette tool, complete with a I.D. record for each circle so that an accompanying worksheet can be created. Do you think it's possible? Thanks for any input! Matt

I apologize if this was already mentioned, but I didn't see it. Is there really NO way to control dimension precision through the Grid tool? There doesn't seem to be. If this doesn't exist, please add to wish list as well. Thanks, Matt