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  1. Hello engineers, VWX has come quite a way since '16 when we started using it in our event industry. REQUEST: My main wishlist item is the ability to separate the Navigation panel tabs into their own palettes. A user could then position the Classes, Design Layers, Sheet Layers, Viewports, Saved Views as their own windows within a workspace, or keep them in the Navigation Panel as tabs. The user could still independently select the Selection Mode for Layers and Classes ("Show/Snap/Modify"). The user could still independently show/hide/ghost Layers and Classes. RATIONALE: I run my workspace in two separate styles depending on the complexity of the event (mostly defined by number of total classes/layers) In both workspace setups, it is essential to switch between Classes AND Layers many, many times during the creation of an event. It is also critical to jump to pre-saved views to visualize (and often, reposition items in 3D space) to view the changes that are made to the overall Top Plan. Finally, during post-production, it is critical to layout and add different sets of annotations and completely different Sheet Layers with unique Viewports for different departments (tech, lighting, AV, client, venue/service, rigging company) This takes significant amounts of time due to sheet layers respecting the Classes and Layers of items that are placed on them Sheet layers are the best (only?) way to deliver final documents to clients, suppliers, partners, and other agencies Annotations, or Viewport layer crop adjustments, already take a significant amount of time to edit due to how VWX loads the viewports. Missing an annotation because it is in the wrong design layer requires the entire process to be repeated. Changes to annotations, viewports, are a significant time chunk and always seem to be changed by client request during the design phase. "Force Select" (Right-click, Force Select) adds double the amount of clicks in the design phase. I am not able to hide layers to avoid extra clicks, as many layers actually hold information that is vital to the planning phase. (Rigging Beams, for example) I am not able to regularly use the "Select/Snap/Modify Others" selection mode as an option, in many cases, mainly due to the different Design Layers that are required to generate an event floorplan, and not wanting to affect those layers or classes during the design phase. (selecting lecterns, stage furniture/seating, for example, without selecting the Stage Decks underneath) Edit: In our case, we are not doing this 5-10 times a year for big shows, or re-using plots and tweaking them venue-to-venue. In 2019, we (I) created, revised, and updated 104-ish unique floorplans for our clients. Each usage of "Force Select", the process that I use to select discrete items on a floor plan to avoid the Classes/Layers panels, takes approx 5-6s depending on the complexity of the floorplan, every time. Considering I use the function maybe 300, 400 times per session: that is 300 * 5 = 1500, 1500/60 = 25 minutes of wasted time simply to select and modify the proper items on a basic floorplan. Even at a extrapolation of using that function daily for 3 days a week, for 52 weeks a year, it ends up at 15,600 minutes or 260hours a year spent just clicking Force Select. PRECEDENTS/ANALOGUES: Adobe Illustrator uses "Artboards", and "Layers" as a way to show different exportable versions of the same artwork. The palettes are separable. Sketchup uses "Scenes", which can store "Layer" visibility. "Outliner" reflects the grouped component items within visible layers and allows for easy selection. The palettes are separable. EXAMPLE: EVENT is inside VENUE X for 2020 date. CLIENT requests a layout plot for their event tables, including tech tables, and bars, cruiser tables, registration desks. CLIENT also requires in-room renderings, room shots. VENUE requires staging, dimensions, and tables, with service pathways for catering, and minimum distances for emergency egress RIGGING COMPANY requires full tech plot, with LX fixtures, rigging and motor points, weight load labels, trussing, and any flown gear or decor items, and label legend. AV requires full tech plot with trussing, cable paths, projection and video with projection beams, audio line arrays and dispersion, power and staging areas, tables, dead case storage layout, and label legend. In this case, it makes sense to have many Design Layers to QUICKLY isolate different items for the Sheet Layers/Viewports that will eventually be Published INSTALL-AV (This layer may hold Spotlight projectors, tech tables, PTZ Camera hang points, FOH staging, LED Wall, speakers, decor elements, drape, everything the AV provider needs to install) INSTALL-TRUSS (I like to separate the Truss to quickly solo the layer during lighting fixture placement, other flown items) INSTALL-LX (Lighting Fixtures and Focus Points, special lighting-only truss or towers, hazers, fog, etc.) INSTALL-Venue (Carpeting, bars, seating, service pathways, drape or stage decks, anything the venue is installing) INSTALL-Rigging Vendor (Label Legend, fixture weights, rigging and motors/hoists, soca, cables, dimensions, decor, power drops or tie-in points) INSTALL-Client Dimensions (dimensions that will be shown to the client on their Sheet Layer) INSTALL-Tech Dimensions (dimensions that will be shown on tech layers) VENUE-Structure (the actual building, including walls, doors, windows, rigging beams or structural hang points, chandeliers, curtains, sconces, cable troughs, catwalks, power outlets, other BIM) VENUE-Ceiling (for easy OpenGL ISO views, as well as internal render views with ceiling and full lighting) In many cases, Classes are used across design layers. A good example would be Dimensions: as a user, I will always find the Dimensions for any Design Layer in the Dimensions class, as that's where VWX always defaults. Same with other plug-in items ("Truss", or "Hoists") which all have a default VWX layer that they end up in. I am already using many different work-arounds in my workflow that either reduce or outright skip VWX functionality that is good but not feasible to use on every plot. An example would be Hoist Labels, Cable Paths, Seating Layout, vertical truss or truss grid structures via the Insert Truss tool These tools require extra time to properly instantiate on plots. This time is mostly spent in the Object Info Palette, which I prefer to have as much visible as possible on the workspace to avoid scrolling or missing information because it is not visible in a smaller palette. CONCLUSION: If VWX enabled the Navigation Palette tabs to be their own palettes: organization becomes much faster to manage less reliance on "Force Select" as a main selection tool Saved Views become more feasible to use in a fast-paced design setting (ESPECIALLY with rotated top view) Design Layers and the interaction between Classes becomes twice as fast to manage imported CAD drawings with hundreds of Classes are easier to navigate and reassign to layers The relationship between Sheet Layers and Viewports becomes easier to edit The "Organization" applet becomes more relevant, and filters become more useful, because overall file organization is easier to deploy Users are not punished with excessive UI switching for properly separating different items to Design Layers
  2. Hi! I am also adding a few customized symbols into the Chain Hoist base library file, in order to fulfill some requirements of our rigging and subcontract suppliers. Anything else I should be aware of? I'm just changing the names and adding a weight load to the custom hoists "name", so that they will populate a "Legend" worksheet. The issue I'm having is that the Hoist Tool is great for workflow, but I haven't figured out how to put their details into the Worksheet (name, weight, capacity, chain length, etc.) Legend is required for our vendors (manufacturer, weight, capacity, department) Hoist tool will only add from the library file Renaming the imported symbols (once they are on the rigging request doc) to properly populate the worksheet to fulfill rigging req's Adding a new hoist on revised doc adds the base symbol again into the resource manager Select new hoists and "Replace..." with custom symbol Recalculate worksheet every event The solution to me is to just bite the bullet and create new symbols that can be chosen from the beginning, for each department. Anyone else have any ideas? Thanks! It would be awesome if the tool could allow Symbol selection like the "Insert Truss" plugin...
  3. Hey, The seating tool is ... not great. Hope this will help you figure out a useful way of getting around the limitations. Most times, I find it simpler to perform "Duplicate Array..." on symbols and arranging by hand. However, for some setups this is just too difficult, so I've learned to fuddle about with the seating to make it "work" on my plots. Here are a few personal tips: 1. Build your polygons to represent the seating area. Here's a pic of some with some aisles. Work on one section at a time. This is obviously not going to work for engineering drawings or anything but mainly as a Demo or Approximation. Below, you will find the "Automatically Focus" section at the top, a custom section without numbering in the middle, and a numbered section at the bottom (with caveat* see point 7) 2. Go through the CREATE EVENT SEATING wizard as usual. Select Classroom and choose a basic standard symbol. Seat spacing is NOT ACCURATE and should not be trusted. These settings require a bit of fuss to tweak. 3. Once the boundary is "populated" with chairs, (they are all messed up), go to the Info Panel and select "Show Boundary" and "Concentric". You can also choose the offset option as well. Without concentric you'll get rectangular seating (which might be what you want, but won't give a good effect in this case.) 4. Now, to properly fill the "space", I use the 'Seating Count: Specify the number of seats' option. This will allow me to expand the possible seating (even outside the boundary margins) and start the process of visualizing. Use values that will fill your seating boundary completely. Here is a good time to tweak the seat spacing to make it more realistic. Manually use the Dimensions tool to confirm spacings if you are trying for accuracy!!!!!! 5. FOCUS FRONT. This will look at your polygon shape and place the BLUE BOX focus dot in the middle of one edge of the polygon. As you click the FOCUS FRONT, it will cycle around the possible edges. I click this to select the "base" edge that I will want to point the seats at eventually. It will look something like this: 6. You can now use the selection tool to single-click this BLUE BOX and move it to the area of the room that you would like to focus the seats. The result will probably give you a better approximation of the seating arrangement. Now you can tweak the seat spacing further to give a better idea of placement. Still, don't trust those values as they are not representative of the actual spacing. Manual measurement with the Dimension tool is required. 7. You will end up with something like above, and once you are "finalized" now it's a matter of ungrouping the seating. Ungrouping will lose all the live-updates "Event Seating" information, like the Chair Count, seating numbers, etc. If you add them beforehand, when you choose the Ungroup option you will have a whack of stuff in the same class, so it is almost mandatory to set up a separate class for Seating Numbers if you are going to need that kind of thing. Then you will also want to set up a custom Text Style as well as you will find the default size for the seat numbers is ridiculously oversized. 8. After deleting the out-side-of-boundary chairs, I ended up with this. Manually selecting the chair symbols will give the readout in the Object Info panel of how many actual butts there are. It will require manual touchups afterward for each seat number. Still, even as crappy as it is, a nicer method than trying to manually place a bunch of seating. 9. If you feel like being...well, you can adjust the "Seats Per Row" to a higher value like 100 to achieve a crazy seating plot. Then you can delete "aisles" as needed and the rest of the seating will be nicely aligned with adjacent sections.

 

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