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Answer: Ignatius - talking to himself while watching television Petri talks to himself, too, but this quote doesn't sound like him. Ignatius often accuses people of being perverse, but Petri doesn't, at least not so far. Maybe after this test he'll start to think of someone on the forum as being perverse.

Answer: Petri - #79140 - 05/09/07 11:06 AM Ignatius has that same habit of saying "you're the stupidest person who ever lived" when he really means "I don't think I stated my point clearly." This quote was in the first list of Petri quotes. Maybe some of you don't remember that far back. That's why you should always review all your notes and hand-outs the night before a test. Also, you can tell that it's an internet forum post, because of the phrase "what I wrote above." That's a good example of a 'context clue'. If I had left off the word "above," it would have been impossible to tell which character wrote this.

Well, I can see that everyone's feeling shy today. So I'll just give you some of the answers to the test. If anyone can add anything, or if you have any questions, feel free to interrupt at any time. Answer: Petri - #83153 - 07/27/07 05:45 AM This one was easier because it was in the second list of Petri quotes. If you studied you probably got this one right. Of course, if you didn't have that list it would have been impossible to tell. This quote would fit perfectly into one of Ignatius' letters. Ignatius, too, often tells people they're stupid or ignorant when what he really means is that he disagrees with something they said. And he often says it in this same way, telling the other person how bored and sad he feels because the level of their intelligence is so low that he can't even laugh at their disability. Compare this with Petri's quote # 18:

Giant? Yes, I guess that's the only way to describe someone who can come up with such brilliant retorts as "How sad" or "Matopin Rock Fungus." It would be great if Petri were to make more contributions to this thread. We need fresh material for the Final Exam. I'm sure Petri understands that it's all in fun, since he kids people all the time in the same way.

Mike, I think what Susan is trying to say is that she doesn't have any use for those extras in her particular practice, and that she should have the choice to buy only the part of VectorWorks that she wants, at a lower price than people who do want the whole package. Or, as she would probably say it, "Screw all that crap."

Simon, that's a very good analysis. Everything you said about it fitting in with Petri's style and specialty was correct. But this quote isn't from Petri. It's from Ignatius. Now don't feel badly that you got it wrong, or anyone else who got it wrong. Most of you got this one wrong. In fact, I got this one wrong myself! It was a very hard question, and so I'm not going to take any points off if you missed it. Answer: Ignatius - to his mother, talking about the incident with Patrolman Mancuso. The full quote is: If you remove Ignatius' name and the context clue, 'law officer,' and substitute an ethnic word, like 'Australian,' it sounds just like Petri: After I thought about it a little more, I realized that I don't remember Petri using the word "congenitally." Maybe it's only used in American prep schools. But Petri often uses other modifiers in his insults to show that someone's intellectual inferiority is extreme and beyond any hope of change, like "complete idiot," and "your profound ignorance," and "non-sentient life form." I don't think he's used the word "mongoloid," either, but wouldn't it be just perfect for Petri? It means mentally retarded, and at the same time it's also an ethnic slur! Maybe we're giving him some new ideas. Note the use of "I see" at the beginning, to show that Ignatius understands all and looks at the hopelessness of others with pity or detachment. You'll find that a lot in Petri's insults, too. At other times Petri and Ignatius use "How sad" or "Dear me" instead. -------------------------------------- Okay, now who can tell us the answer to question number 2? Give us the answer, and tell us why you think that's the right answer. And if anyone has a different idea, you can just say it. You don't have to wait to be called on. This is an open discussion. I'll give you a hint: question 2 was an easier question.

Now, Simon, it's not just a matter of how well or how poorly you did on the test. The main thing is comprehension. We need to have a class discussion about each question to make sure everyone understands, so they'll do better in the final exam, and so they'll retain what they've learned later on out in the workplace. I know you're all concerned about your grades, but remember that the best way to improve your grade is to improve your comprehension. Anyway, what's your hurry? You're not going anywhere, are you? Learning can be fun if you just relax and take it one step at a time. We've got all the time in the world. So tell us why you thought the first quote was by Petri.

Pete, Thanks for your kind words, but this thread is really just a tribute to Petri's comedy genius, an aspect of his genius that he's been more modest about than some others. I've contributed very little other than quotes from the master. If I've managed to be funny in my own words also, it's only because of his inspiration. If I've been dull and sympathetic, I hope noone hates me for it. -------------------------------- Alright, class, let's review your answers to yesterday's test. Who can tell me the correct answer to question number 1? Simon has already told us that he thinks it's Petri. Does everyone agree? What about you, PetriFried? Where IS PetriFried today? Such a great name, and then he only used it for one post. Anyone? Your answer to question 1? Is anyone there?

I think I remember some people having posted color charts to share on one of the non-official sites, but I don't know offhand which one. It always seemed to me that it's easy to get a day-glo look on the screen, in fact hard to get anything else. Full chroma and a medium or bright value, depending on the hue. But getting it on a print must have a lot to do with the paper and the ink. I've never tried. I vaguely remember seeing a set of color ink cartridges somewhere that were supposed to be for day-glo colors.

Cross-post from VectorScript Forum This is the helpful reply I made to Petri's stinging expos? of VectorGeek. I think he intended to put it here, but got mixed up because VG had cross-posted the list he was responding to. In any case, it belongs here. Petri, you're missing the whole point of these lists. You can't just list the name and date of each post. What good is that? You have to provide actual text from the post. And you have to select only the funny parts. Okay? Now come on, try again. You should also keep in mind that "VectorGeek" is obviously an alter ego of someone who normally posts under a different name, and that the name itself, the photo, and even the style of his posts are all a parody of you. Everyone else understands that, so you should adjust your repartie accordingly. Look, maybe this is too subtle for you. Why not stick to ethnic slurs? You're good with ethnic slurs. VG says he's from "Earth." Can't you think of any insulting things to say about Earth? You're a Vulcan, after all. Can't you say something about our emotional nature, our illogical thought processes?

You can edit one of the colors that's on your color palette, using the pull-down menu command Set Attribute Defaults > Color palette... Just select one of the squares and click on "Pick Color". It also gives you an option to import a color palette from another drawing file. The coordination of screen colors to printers, and particularly to different brands and models, is the hard part. You have to print and adjust, iteratively. Sometimes the color that prints right looks completely wrong on screen.

Very amusing, VectorGeek, that note from your mother. It looks suspiciously like your handwriting. I'll just give her a call. Or would you rather take the test?

It sounds like you're using "constrain" in a way that I'm not used to, something other than the Constraints palette. "constrain these 4 rectangles together" sounds like you should be making a Group out of them, by selecting them and issuing the Group pull-down menu command, so that they become a single object that can be moved, re-sized, stretched, given attributes, etc. And VW is crashing? That's very strange. Maybe you should call tech support.

Do you mean it's not really a CAD issue, but simply that the surveyor didn't provide enough precision in his data?

MID-TERM EXAM HUMOR 105 - "BUFFOONERY: AGGRESSION IN SERVICE OF THE BLOATED EGO" For each of the following quotes, identify the source. Write I for Ignatius, or P for Petri. All of the quotes are from one of those two sources. Some of the answers can be found in your course materials. For others, you will have to check the original sources, or else rely on your understanding of the differences between the two characters.

That's caused a lot of confusion over the years. In the US, architects use inches as the CAD unit, but surveyors use feet, so when we use the geometry in a surveyor's drawing we enlarge it all by 12x. It's the same problem when both parties are using AC.

Petri, you're missing the whole point of these lists. You can't just list the name and date of each post. What good is that? You have to provide actual text from the post. And you have to select only the funny parts. Okay? Now come on, try again. You should also keep in mind that "VectorGeek" is obviously an alter ego of someone who normally posts under a different name, and that the name itself, the photo, and even the style of his posts are all a parody of you. Everyone else understands that, so you should adjust your repartie accordingly. Look, maybe this is too subtle for you. Why not stick to ethnic slurs? You're good with ethnic slurs. VG says he's from "Earth." Can't you think of any insulting things to say about Earth? You're a Vulcan, after all. Can't you say something about our emotional nature, our illogical thought processes?

A bug. You shouldn't have to hit the space bar. Holding the space bar down should temporarily change to the Pan tool, which affects the display bar, but not in that way.

Is "Position at Next Click" selected in the "Create Object" palette (the one where you entered the size of the rectangle)?

Finland is a beautiful country which has made many fine contributions to world culture, more than its share based on size and population, I believe. Countering someone's argument by impugning the country he lives in is both childish and ineffectual. Not only that, it's widely known as Petri's trademark -- so much so that to do it here would smack of plagiarism. Anyone who wants to engage in low-brow brawling on this forum should respect the claim that Petri has clearly staked out, and should find some other way of being petty and obnoxious. Study up, people! There's going to be a test tomorrow. Multiple choice, based on the material we've covered so far. Make sure you know your basic comedic character types. This WILL count toward your final grade.

Well, yes, 'backwater' may not have been a conscious choice, but it's a nice touch anyway. And calling the Netherlands "some technological backwater" can't be anything but a joke, regardless of what Petri thinks it is. There are places you could say that about and it would be an insult, but in this case it's like saying, "Your dog is a monkey." That 'navel-lint' line is pure Ignatius J Reilly. Anyone who appreciates Petri's style of humor should take a look at the novel I mentioned earlier, A Confederacy of Dunces. Here are some excerpts from it, showing that same combination of archaic formal language with absurd self-indulgence and the social skills of a wet baby:

Pete, I've always thought the insults were the entertaining part. Can you cite some examples of his humor that don't involve schoolyard-style personal attacks? Those would fit in well with the theme of this thread. If they're devastatingly funny, they really shouldn't be left out. And maybe we should have some examples of him being informative, to show his "superior logical, pointy-eared, conceptual-thinking Vulcan" side.

Is there still that problem with opening files that are on CD's? It used to be that you couldn't open a file that's on a CD because it's automatically a "read-only" file, no "write" permission. You had to copy the file to the hard disk first, and open that copy. At least that was true on Windows. With older Windows versions you also had to remove the read-only attribute from the file's properties.

The "backwater" part of that remark was a stroke of genius -- slipping in a reference to the international reputation of Dutch seawater control engineering, into what would otherwise be just a crude ethnic slur. Another contributor once remarked on Old-Petri's unique ability "to insult individuals, companies, and whole countries in a single post." That Dutch homage was part of the VS/IFC thread you referred to, which was Petri-Spock in his prime. Since he's gone now, replaced by Nice-Petri, it might be a good idea to include a few other excerpts from it in this tribute:

Great list, VG, including some that I'd never seen before. Here are a few more: They're not really very Spock-like, are they? In fact, they sound exactly like the character Ignatius J Reilly, in the novel A Confederacy of Dunces. But Ignatius had a lot of delusions about himself. Maybe he thought that he was like Mr. Spock.