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  1. 10 hours ago, RonMan said:

    My testing indicates the chart is accurate. I keep a virtual machine of macOS Sierra in case I need it.


     i am responsible for 6 mac workstations for Vectorworks plus another 20 workstations, servers etc. - of course I keep backups before upgrading the OS on the workstations, but I can't be expected to keep and maintain  virtual machines for all of the Vectorworks Workstations "just in case"


    It is nice that people post their opinions here, but the only thing that will let me update my user's workstations, is an official answer from Vectorworks.


    We also use various other software (of course) all these other software vendors have a clear position on this question. Only Vectorworks seems to be unsure if it is compatible or not, which is frustrating. We have used Vectorworks for many years and intend to keep using it. We are fine with waiting for a couple of months after the latest MacOS update before updating, however I would say that by 3 months I would expect Vectorworks to have caught up. We pay an annual subscription which includes annual releases. I think it is fair to expect Vectorworks to make sure that the annual releases are compatible with the corresponding operating systems.


    I have sent the above comment directly to Vectorworks.

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  2. 5 hours ago, Jeremy Best said:

    Vectorworks Inc endorsed Catalina for Vectorworks 2020 back in October 2019, so it's fine to expect the software to deliver its advantages. 


    That is good news, but a little confusing... as of today the technical specifications pages lists Catalina as "testing"


    Have they retracted the status since October?




    Assuming you have ideal conditions, my answer is, absolutely. I say 'ideal conditions' because there are a myriad of variables that determine how well software performs and the setup and historical maintenance are factors, even if the previous version worked fine. If you want to get a fair sense of software stability and performance, you need to provide ideal conditions and rule out variables that can compromise performance. Of those variables, here's what comes to mind on-the-fly: 


    To get software to run as best as possible; 

    • Instead of just upgrading your operating system, erase then install it fresh. - You should expect to do this at least every few upgrades anyway. 
    • Account for inevitable data corruption. 1 in 1500 files are corrupt, so:
      • Expect to recreate your resource files at some point. Vectorworks resources and others. 
      • Set up perpetual backups so you can recover lost data or turn back time should you identify/experience a corruption. 
      • Don't expect a migrated macOS user account to function as well as a virgin one. There's just too many files handled in this process to expect flawless execution. 
    • Ensure your system is capable of the task you are executing. Just because the previous version of software did something the current one has trouble with, it doesn't mean the newer software is cause. Which brings me to: 
    • Keep in mind that newer software employs newer conventions that older hardware or drivers won't/can't handle. Ensure ALL your OS, hardware, drivers and software are current. 


    With all due respect, and honest thanks to you for taking the time to try to answer my question, but this is a very silly response. - No offence intended as I am sure that your response was an honest attempt to help, but please read the question: The answer I am looking for is simply "yes" or "no".


    Either Vectorworks claim that their software runs reliably on a particular operating system, or not. Like all other software. 






  3. Jan 20th 2020 - Is there a quick, simple answer for my users in our company please:

    Assuming the hardware meets requirements can Vectorworks 2020 Spotlight & Braceworks run reliably on macOS Catalina as of today?

    Apologies if this question has already been answered somewhere else in this thread, but I don't have time to read through all the posts at the moment.





  4. Hi Silas,


    thanks for trying and replying.


    As you say - "in Python this function will NOT block execution. It will execute a callback function with the resulted point" - I did read that but i was hoping there was some way around that.


    I'll stick to Vectorscript for now for this tool.


  5. Hi,

    Some years ago I wrote a few tools in Vectorscript based on a number stamp. The idea is simple enough: enter a starting number in a dialog, start clicking, the number increments and is "printed" in the drawing on each mouse click. In the actual implementation there is other stuff going on too, but it's just this part I need help with at the moment.


    The Vectorscript tools work fine, but now I would like to re-write them in Python, but I can't get it working at all! This is because I am probably too stupid to understand what I need to do, but also it is because of the way GetPt() seems to works in Python. Also I don't get how to use KeyDown() in Python. I am open to any suggestion on how to do this in python in any way it works:

    • Enter a starting number in a dialog
    • Start clicking to add numbers (as text) that increment with each mouse click.

    It seems like this should be simple enough, but I have been trying to get it to work for a while and i can't! Any help would be much appreciated.


    Here, below, is a simplified version of my Vectorscript that works fine, and below that one example of how I have tried (and failed miserably) to translate it to Python:


    Simple Number Stamp Tool
    By: Benedick Miller
    Date: 2014-10-06
    Procedure SimpleNumberStamp;
    		n:=IntDialog('Enter the starting number','1');
    		IF NOT DidCancel THEN
    		while not keydown(keyhit) do

    And the Python translation:

    # Print Incremental Numbers on each mouse click until [Esc]
    # NOT WORKING!!!
    import vs
    def label(pt):
    def kdwn():
    	return k[1]
    keyhit = 27
    i = 1
    n = 1
    n = vs.IntDialog('Enter the starting number', n ) 
    if not vs.DidCancel():
    	while not kdwn() == keyhit:
    		n = n + i


  6. continued...


    @DomC - thank for this example, it's really helpful for learning. However there seems to be a mistake in the indenting in your example code, which of course with python is deadly! I got it to work like this:


    import codecs
    import os.path
    import os
    homeDir = os.path.join(os.path.expanduser("~"))
    Pfad = '{}/Documents/TempVWFiles'.format(homeDir)
    File = homeDir+'/Documents/TempVWFiles/'+'Klassenliste_'+FileName+'.txt'
    d = os.path.dirname(Pfad)
    if not os.path.isdir(Pfad):
    f = codecs.open(File, "w", "utf-8")
    x = 1
    while x <= KlassenAnzahl:
    	Klasse = vs.ClassList(x)
    	x= x+1
    vs.AlrtDialog('Die Datei wurde an folgende Stelle gespeichert:'+File)
    import subprocess
    import sys
    if sys.platform == 'darwin':
       def openFolder(path):
           subprocess.check_call(['open', '--', path])
    elif sys.platform == 'linux2':
       def openFolder(path):
           subprocess.check_call(['gnome-open', '--', path])
    elif sys.platform == 'win32':
    	def openFolder(path):
    		subprocess.check_call(['explorer', path])



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  7. @twk  the link you posted above no longer works - can you post an updated link?


    the original link:



    links to a nice message: "The Vectorworks Community Board has been upgraded with a bunch of great new features and moved to this location. But don’t worry — ALL of the content has been migrated along with it, so anything that was on the old forum is still available for you to use and reference." but a search for #Post220857 just leads me back to this thread, which ain't much use!



    I just want to mention that if you are familiar with VS, you can really jump into Python with just learning the syntax basics and remembering to add "vs." before every VW API call.... etc.


    @JBenghiat this is perhaps the most helpful single post I have seen on the topic of transitioning from VS to Python. Thank you! - could you please get this posted on the first page of the developer wiki : http://developer.vectorworks.net/index.php/Python - which is extremely terse for a beginner.

  9. hi twk,

    thank you very much for this, very helpful. I will try this later. It makes sense.

    Sorry for "dumb" questions - I am trying to teach myself Python at the same time as learning how to use VS code, so I can update my ancient Vectorscript plugins. All the help in this forum is much appreciated.

  10. Hi,

    I am just starting off with python for Vectorworks - I use Visual Studio Code (VS Code) as my IDE on a Mac (MacOS 10.13)  I have downloaded vs.py but I have no idea how to set up VS Code to "see" vs.py for intelli-sense or linting


    The instructions: "To help intelli-sense for Vectorworks Python script APIs, you can point your IDE to the file File:Vs.zip (download, unzip, and place it appropriately so the IDE could find it)" don't help me much.


    Can anyone explain the steps needed to point VS Code to vs.py (or an alternative)?

  11. Hi Mark,


    Thank you. I also got the same answer from Vectorworks Support (Germany). This fixes it.


    I have to say: who knew?! Is this a documented feature of Spotlight? I did indeed change the symbol name in the resources manager at some point after creating the lighting position. I have often edited symbol names for symbols I have created, in Vectorworks Fundamentals, and the symbols stay linked to the symbol names. This is the first time I have changed a symbol name for a Spotlight Lighting Position Symbol. There was no warning when I did this. The drawing looked the same until I edited the z height of this position, at which point it just disappeared without any error message or explanation. Now that I know that if I want to change a symbol name for a spotlight object, lighting position, lighting fixture etc. I will need to go to each instance of the symbol and enter the new symbol name in the info palette. Is this really a desired feature of Vectorworks Spotlight? It feels like this goes against the normal behaviour of vectorworks symbols.


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  12. I have solved this issue on my system.

    I spoke to Vectorworks Support in Germany - They think the problem was caused by my Vectorworks User Data and Preferences Folder being a Dropbox folder.


    However whilst trying to re-set to the default preferences folder - to test the theory - I could not start Vectorworks. In the end I uninstalled Vectorworks (including removing all application support and preference files) downloaded the latest version (SP2) and installed from scratch. Everything is working now. The above mentioned crash does not occur.


    Unfortunately I cannot confirm that Dropbox was indeed causing the problem as I couldn't test this. I can pass on that I've been told that the Vectorworks User Data and Preferences Folder should not be a Dropbox folder. Re-installing a clean Vectorworks has fixed the problem.


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