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Bruce Kieffer
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It sure would be nice if we could redefine a working plane.
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46 minutes ago, Tom W. said:
Only I think by right-clicking on it in the 'Working Planes' palette + selecting Edit... but that requires you to enter XYZ + rotation values manually which isn't really the same thing. If you edit a Working Plane in the drawing then go to resave it with the same name it doesn't let you overwrite it. So no, you can't redefine a Working Plane as far as I know. It would be useful to be able to though.
Wish list item!
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Just now, Tobias Kern said:
Hey @Bruce Kieffer,
after placement of the WP, I can single-click to one of the axes to rotate.
Greetings
Tobi
As @Tom W. pointed out I have to have 3D axes turned ON in grid settings, and I had that turned off.
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So is there a way to redefine a saved working plane?
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That's it!. Thanks @Tom W.
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I have done that and I don't see any "grips". You can see the working plane is selected by the cross in the middle.
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How do I rotate this working plane? I recall there were controls, but I cannot find them now.
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Thanks @rDesign. I can watch that video. We really need an updated video. Where is this in 2025?
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I want to learn to activate them, look at them, rotate my view to them, and redefine them. I've watched some of Jonathan's older WP videos, but they use the old controls.
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1 minute ago, Tom W. said:
I'm not sure I'm aware of any changes to Working Planes between VW24 + VW25... What are you seeing that's different?
I haven't used working planes much, so maybe I'm thinking of earlier versions of Vectorworks. I want to learn how to navigate around them as they are currently. Things like these toolbar actions, and the fact that the "Plane" designation in the OIP is gone (Thank goodness we no longer have to deal with layer plane and screen plane).
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It seems there are many changes to working planes in 2025. Are there any videos that show the changes?
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@Merlijn Toussaint I downloaded the "Cut List Template" file embedded above and I updated it to v2025. It has the use instructions too. Here it is.
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Darn! @line-weight you are correct. I was fooled again thinking I had found a solution. I switched the vp view to right ISO and there's everything again. Crap!
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This discussion about Clip Cube got me wondering if I could do what I want to do using Clip Cube, and it looks like I can.
Here's my pantry without the doors.
I hid all the classes I don't want to see.
I used the Clip Cube to cut like a section VP, then set the render to wireframe.
I switched the view to Right View and created this VP. It works!
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29 minutes ago, line-weight said:
There is the ability to hide objects inside a symbol - put them in a dedicated class & make the class invisible.
True, but it does not work using the hide selected objects command introduced in 2025.
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15 minutes ago, line-weight said:
Maybe that's what @Bruce Kiefferwants (in which case these solutions work well) but drawing a section where solid elements are effectively portrayed as hollow goes against the technical drawing conventions I am used to, and just seems like a way to cause confusion.
I understand your concern, but in my case all of this could be solved if only there was a wireframe render setting for section VPs, or the ability to hide objects inside of a symbol.
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1 hour ago, Tom W. said:
In your case I would just do it from the Sheet Layer. With the VP selected look for 'Data Visualisation' in the OIP;
Thanks @Tom W. I have it working now.
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5 minutes ago, Pat Stanford said:
In VW 2025 Data Viz is right below the Render Mode to the right of the active class.
Thanks @Pat Stanford. VH help told me to look in the View Bar, which I assumed was at the top right above my drawing window.
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3 minutes ago, line-weight said:
Surely the least convoluted way to not show the shelves would be just to put them in a "shelf" class and then turn that class off in the vport.
Absolutely. But in my case if I could set the section VP to render hidden line that would be the best solution. I have added that to the wish list.
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12 minutes ago, Tom W. said:
Try keeping the Material but using Data Vis to remove the fill
I can't find my Data Viz menu in the View Bar.
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I used a Material too, and the material has a fill. I need the material for my worksheet criteria. I removed the material and fill form the bottom two shelves here:
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1 hour ago, Tom W. said:
You should be able to use the 'Hidden Object Display...' settings in the OIP for the Section VP to achieve this.
For example these holes are in the side panel behind the shelves:
What is the setting you are using in the Hidden Object Display? I've tried everything, but I cannot get rid of the black fill.
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1 hour ago, line-weight said:
I still don't really understand what it is that you want to create. As per my previous comment, I don't see how a section of a wireframe would be meaningful/useful. Can you post an example?
Yes I can! I've been working on the example for our user group to explain it later today. This may not be the best example, but it does show what I need. The right VP is a section VP. Wireframe is not an option (sadly). The horizontal dividers have been "sectioned" by the section VP cut. They are filled black and I cannot see the biscuit grooves, and I need to see those grooves. The left VP is a "standard VP looking from the right and set to wireframe. The best solution for my needs would be if wireframe was an available render option for a section VP. Hiding objects seems to be the next best workaround.
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28 minutes ago, Jonathan Pickup said:
can you share this detail in a Vectorworks file, i'll have a look
if all ale fails, draw a temporary arc and dimension that, turn off association and delete or hide the arc.
Looks like @Pat Stanford is (unfortunately) correct. I am in a sheet layer.
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Add redefine working plane.
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Just like redefining a saved view. No, I don't want objects to move. Say I created an object and set a working plane to the top, and save that WP as "Top." Then for some reason I rotate the object, set a working plane for the new orientation of the top, and save it as "Top". Then I want Vectorworks to ask me if I want to overwrite the exist WP named Top. As it is now, all I can do is cancel because Vectorworks says that name is already in use.