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  1. Hi Patrick. My workaround is rough! I pasted the objects from the referenced file into the file containing the worksheet. Then added the record format to those objects. Both files are attached The referenced (source file) is "proposed". The worksheet file is "existing". Fortunately the worksheet is simple, and the objects reported in it are few. I hope this helps! Kind regards, Mark 201110 GA 100 Existing 17.39 v2021.vwx 201110 GA 101_2 GA Proposed 18.50 v2021.vwx
  2. @isyme In my horizontal section viewport 2D objects can be rendered sketch by checking "sketch hidden line results" in "foreground render settings". 3D objects cannot. Which seems logical...
  3. Agreed...see this in wish list:-
  4. Respect. Thank you Kevin. Advice accepted! I agree that ideally we only ever create a 3D model. After many years of large scale practice I now choose small scale. So I am a designer again, not a team manager. But I am competing in a very competitive local marketplace. If I built a model of the existing building accurate enough for construction docs downstream I'd price myself out of the market place. However...on my next commission I will obtain a survey of the existing building consisting of a point cloud from laser technology. I am aiming to import these data into my VWX file. So, hopefully, making my 2D workaround unnecessary. I'll let you you know how it goes! Mark.
  5. I concluded the sill function in windows tool works only for single skin timber framed construction. So for what I understand as a traditional north american construction method. I use a sill symbol nested within a symbol which has all the other components needed. Meaning a drylining on the inside, sometimes a rendered or stone reveal on the outside, cill board etc. So the window is in-wall. And the "components" symbol makes its own wall-hole, using an object tailored to the components.
  6. Hi Tom, In this image I show the massing model (as well as the wireframe one, made of the 2D objects to compose elevations). Incidentally in the first image I used a template. So that shows misalignment between the section and the side elevation because there's two projects in there! In this second image I've corrected that so now you can see the section and side elavation mapping onto eachother. There's no fourth elevatoin because this existing building is semi-detached. The massing model is made from roof faces, solids, and a wall type. Using just a few "massing classes" (walls, roofs, glass etc). The wall type has just one component, class "walls". It's width is precisely the same as a wall type with various construction components. So later in the design process I can easily change the wall type to create a construction model. At this stage floor plans are simple 2D ones using filled coloured polygons to show spaces . You could use the space object for this. PS I have not been to Norfolk recently. But was in Cambridgshire. They have a local rendering/plastering technique...been trying to google its name, unsuccessfully... Regards, Mark Model WF and OGL.pdf
  7. The link posted by rDesign I also found helpful. Also... ...I create 2D plans, section and elevations from on-site survey measurements of existing. I draw the plans on separate layers arranged in storeys at specified levels. They are drawn on layer planes. Then I draw the section on its own layer and on its own working plane, WP, perpendicular to the layer plane. I draw the north and south elevations on separate layers but on the same working plane. That WP is also perpendicular to the layer plane. Similarly the east and west elevations are on two more layers, both on a second WP. That WP is also perpendicular to the plans. And perpendicular to the north-south WP. This leads to a sort of rapid reference model of existing viewable in 3D. Meaning you can see floor plans, elevations and section arranged in their correct planar orientations. With plans are real surveyed levels. But all objects are simple 2D lines. I can then build a 3D model related to the 2D objects easily. Without having to build a 3D model of the existing. Which is time-consuming. And hard to do so that it accurately reflects the survey. E.g. of a 17th century stone built house here in the English Peak District, where no walls are parallel and all vary in thickness and by level! In this example I've switched off two of the elevations. I actually drew the section on the same WP as the N/S elevations. By using the same WP for opposite elevations you can generate the second elevation very easily in outline by duplicating objects and changing their layer. So it makes sense to put the section on one of the elevation WP's to generate the elevation outlines in this way. As in the link above I use a "demolition layer" mirroring every "existing layer". Then for each pair there are any number of "proposed" layers. So this method does not rely on classes for differentiation between whats retained, demolished and new. Any and all comments welcome! Example of 2D Model.pdf
  8. Hi Jeff, no but I will now try "use symbol geometry" . Thank you so much for taking time to provide the example. So encouraging. I work solo these days here in Macclesfield, England. And miss the educational environment of a large design office. So interactions like this are especially valuable. Thank you again. They prompt deeper understanding of the awesome capability of VWX. By nudging out of the normal track. The comfort zone is not the learning zone! Best, Mark.
  9. I think I am experiencing the same issue, trying to pull information into a worksheet by a criterion which is part of a record format. The record format is attached to my target objects in a file referenced into the worksheet file through a design layer referenced viewport. But then, my worksheet can't see the objects when criteria are set by class, layer....
  10. From another thread this seems to be a known issue. I am using a record format to pull the information into the worksheet.
  11. Hi Pat, I found your post whilst trying to solve a problem. That may be related to your question...I am trying to report values in a worksheet from objects in a referenced design layer viewport. I have set the database criteria to include design layer referenced viewports, by checking the right box. The DLRVP is up to date. I can see the objects. The worksheet shows identical objects in the worksheet file. But not from the referenced one...Ive also set criteria by layer, class etc. But the worksheet remains blind to the DLRVP.
  12. Around these parts barn doors are designed by the contractor...but I do design large doors for homes. With a leaf hinged only at top and bottom using a recessed floor pivot and vertical bar into the underside of the horizontal frame member. Entrance Plan.pdf
  13. Thank you Pat. For experimenting and providing this logical analysis. Makes perfect sense. Incidentally...My work-around was to create a new wall type, whose components are those of an insulated composite wooden door leaf. This wall is actually a fixed panel and large floor-pivoted door (door height =panel ht.=wall ht). The new wall with the curtain wall is an entrance screen. So Vectorworks shapes the architecture through the workaround. It is the logical performance of Vectorworks which enables this. Making it such an intuitive joy to work with.
  14. Hi Samuel, I got the same problem. I tried a "curtain wall" door type. And also a plug-in object from a manufacturer. Neither made any difference. I think there may be a separate worksheet function for the net area of curtain walls. But I can't find one! (Only one for net area of panels.) Pat Stanford , a veteran and moderator of this Board, is probably the go-to person for help on this. He has helped me with worksheet functions in the past. I'd be interested to hear more. Best, Mark

 

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