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And I think I just found the answer. Does Vision Plus only allow one NDI stream?

Months later I've finally had time to test it in a way I felt like I actually figured some things out. @bbudzonYou were absolutely right on the NDI quality setup, that gave me a very crisp and clean image like I wanted. I still am having inconsistencies with using two NDI streams. I can consistently make one stream work, or one NDI stream and a webcam, but two NDI streams mostly did not work for me. I tried multiple computers, multiple sources, changing the names, everything I could think of. In maybe twenty tests, I made two individual streams work once. When I put a second stream in, the second one goes black, even though when I'm assigning the stream it shows an accurate, live preview of what it's seeing on the NDI stream. Thanks!

After a chat with VW, turns out you can do this, it just doesn't seem straightforward to me. Turns out you have to include "__NNA^1 In Schematic View" in your criteria: And then it works. I think it should still be more straightforward, but there is a built in way to do it that's not quite a workaround.

This is largely a request from someone I work with: He'd like the ability to move a lighting accessory from one unit to another, so that all of it's OIP info can stay with it (channel, address, etc). He's a Master Electrician of a space, and it would save him some significant time when he has to shuffle things around the plot. Anybody else feel like this would be useful?

I'd love to be able to make lighting devices in Schematic Views take my data viz info, so that my 2D draftings can show my data viz across the entire plot. Right now if I use schematic views, there's no way to use data viz (that I can find) to specify things (i.e. I use Data Viz to show which lights are rentals, part of the rep plot, adds, etc.), while the rest of the plot can show that info well.

I'd love to see Data Viz have the capability to change the visualization of accessories, both with the lighting devices they're attached to and independently. When I want to show differences in accessories (What universe they're in, what Gel Scroll they have (yes, I know that's an ancient use case), etc, it would be great to have a set of Data Viz options set up for that. Currently I think they only take the Data Viz from the lighting device they're attached to. Happy to explain more if that's not clear! Thanks.

Thanks for your response! I did note to make sure that there are two different named streams, in both the Isadora output and the Video Source Inputs, but there’s a world where that bounced around as I was figuring it out. I’ll check back on that in the next couple of days. I’ll look around vision preferences for this. I have seen the content on a separate monitor, and it isn’t as fuzzy as in Vision.

Two issues: 1- it looks like I can only use one NDI stream into vision projectors, even if I have two active streams on the network. I can select the second one, but it doesn’t seem to let me output the second. Maybe a limit to only one active allowed somewhere? (for clarity, I have two projectors, projector A is looking at a stream from stage 1 of Isadora, and projector B is looking at a stream from Stage 2 of Isadora. Both show content when I select the preview of them, but content only comes out of projector A when in the scene. Running a M2 Mac Mini and Vision 2024) 2- the ‘High Bandwidth’ version doesn’t seem to give me an increased resolution out of the projector, it seems to stay the same as the low bandwidth, content wise. This might be an issue somewhere else down the line, but I believe I have my settings set correctly. Thanks for any help!

I’m a little shocked that this is still an issue. Consistency from VW to Vision would likely make it a usable program for me.

Thanks so much, Pat! That got it working the way I expected. I'll keep digging and asking questions as they come up!

Hey Pat, Thanks for your response! My code now looks like this: PROCEDURE InsertMSArrow; {Inserts an specified Symbol arrow and adds a User Definable Text Field} VAR X1, Y1, X2, Y2 :Real; BEGIN GetPt(X1,Y1); {gets point from mouse click} Symbol('JMC MS Arrow', X1, Y1, 0); GetPt(X2,Y2); {gets point from mouse click} MoveTo(X2,Y2); CreateText(pTextData); End; Run(InsertMSArrow); But the object shows me the attached when inserted. I'm not seeing a field in the OIP for the TextData, and they appear to be two separate objects. Any thoughts?

Hey Raymond, Thanks for this! I’ve done it that way before, but my long term goal is to make a script based PIO to make the text be read normally no matter how the object is rotated. I think I found the code to make the rotation happen, but (I think) I’d need it to be built into an PIO object first. I’m also hoping to eventually be able to control the color of the geometry inside the object on a per instance basis, which I don’t think I can do as a symbol. Thanks!

Hi there! I'm slowly digging into this all, trying to do some basic things before I go for more complicated scripting to make sure I understand how it works. Right now I'm trying to insert a symbol and a text field into the drawing, and let the text field be adjustable in the OIP. So far what I'm seeing is that it will draw the symbol and text field as two separate objects (symbol and text field respectively), where I'd like to have them be one object together. Below is the code I'm using- it's a Point object so far. PROCEDURE InsertMSArrow; {Inserts an specified Symbol arrow and adds a User Definable Text Field} VAR X1, Y1, X2, Y2 :Real; textData :String; BEGIN GetPt(X1,Y1); {gets point from mouse click} Symbol('JMC MS Arrow', X1, Y1, 0); GetPt(X2,Y2); {gets point from mouse click} MoveTo(X2,Y2); CreateText(pTextData); End; Run(InsertMSArrow); What can I do to make this function properly? I'm sure I'm missing something pretty basic. (Eventually, I'd love to be able to click once, and then click to set the rotation of the object together, if that matters for advice!) Thanks! I'm hoping once I get past some of this stuff, I can hit the ground running!

Hey Pat, This is incredible, thank you so much! Let me dig into it and digest, then I'll come up with better and more specific questions to ask to get what I'm looking for. I appreciate it!

I’m thinking VectorScript, and trying to make a plug in that would insert a symbol or geometry (still deciding) and some text. Trying to make a couple of colors definable in the OIP as well as have the text rotate in a specific way and be definable as well. I’ve been interested in this stuff for a while, and this came up as seemingly a good way to dip my toes in. Thanks Pat!

Hi all! I found this page on the Vectorworks site, but all of the examples don't seem to be there. Anybody have access to these to get started, seeing how basic point object scripts might be laid out? Thanks! Peter

Hi all! I’ve noticed this couple of times now that in a VW2022 project sharing file. At times when another user uses a By Face Texture, I import the changes and the By Face Texture doesn’t show in the model. The OIP shows that the override is there, but it’s not visually showing in the model or renderings. I can add an override to the face myself, but this adds the one my partner added in the OIP and just makes the face show properly. Anybody else having this issue or know a solve? Thanks!

Thanks so much Juan!

I was playing with cable tools today, but I had some troubles. Is there a way to show a list of the errors? If I put in some lighting units, but then swap them to units with other connectors, I'd love to see that my stagepin cable won't work anymore in some way. How can I update the voltage or wattage in the Power Information for my lighting units? It seems like it's defaulting to 1000w and 230v for every unit, and a Mac Encore defaulted to using an Edison connector. How can I see a count adapters in the drawing? I'm particularly thinking about adapters that are automatically added, but I'd love to be able to see a count of all electrical components- Cables, breakouts, distros, etc. I'd be curious to know more about best practices for cable paths. I'll go rewatch the VW University video on it now, but I wish there was a video of a whole workflow of a process, since I haven't dealt with these tools much. Thanks for any thoughts!

Thanks for letting me know I'm not alone, Stephen!

Just an update for those interested- Cloud Publish from Working Files is working now! That cut a bunch of unnecessary steps out of my process, so thanks!

Hi all, I've started having this error when trying to create a schematic view of a boom. "Schematic views cannot be pasted without the model object they are based on," and then doesn't create the view. It started happening with the most recent service pack (2022 SP3.1), but I'm not certain that it happened right at that point. I've also created new blank files and had the same result. Is this happening to anyone else? I'm on Windows 11, VW2022 SP3.1. Thanks!

Huh, interesting @DBLD. Thanks for the advice! That's working for me for the time being. Hope that gets fixed sometime!

Hi all, I'm having an issue with a section viewport. When I render it, some of my lighting devices show in plan view, while the majority show in the right direction. See the attached photo. Any advice? Windows 11, VW2022 SP2.1 Thanks! Peter

This didn't work for me- I can't make the rotation field appear at all. Any other thoughts out there? I'm on a Windows 11 machine, SP2.1. Thanks!