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I've looked through this thread and others linked to it and am a bit confused... I have a similar need to @Patrik Braun in that I want a worksheet that will list all the used/unused classes in a file along with their class descriptions. Such a schedule would be useful for cad management, standardising classes and a reference for people using a template files so they can review what classes are intending for. The threads indicate that this is possible though I can't yet figure it out. Unfortunately I don't have the skills to edit vectorscript myself but there is a cool script by@Pat Stanfordthat creates a worksheet that lists all the classes - but not the class descriptions. I can add an additional column to that worksheet with ="GetDescriptionText" in the database header row and this works however if additional classes are added or some deleted from the file then the worksheet doesn't update as it appears to me to be a list of classes at the time the worksheet was created. I can run Pat's script again to create another worksheet but I'd then need to re-edit it with additional columns to get the class descriptions etc. Is it possible to have a worksheet that creates an update-able list of classes and descriptions? Is it a simple script that someone out there wants to take up as a challenge? :-)

Try adjusting the text margin. The greater the margin the bigger the box.

No worries. Just passing it on. Thanks to @michaelk

There is a script that will take selected SLVP(s) and change the name to Sheet # [space] Drawing # [space] Drawing Title. I find it really useful.

I haven't yet worked out how to use worksheets for legends yet. I 'm interested in how others do this too as I have just been tidying my own system. I have a set of legend symbols in my symbol library. I insert the legends into viewport annotations and it seems to work pretty well. The legend symbols usually only need a little bit of tweaking to suit different projects. i typically use "by class" attributes for pretty much everything. So with my wall/slab style components set to "by class", in my legends I can just use a rectangle to represent the slab or wall (the same width of the wall or slab) and set it to the slab or wall component class with attributes also set to "by class". I prefer placing my legend symbols in the viewport annotations rather than on design layers. This means less viewports plus being in the annotation layer the legends can be at 1:1 scale (I.e scaled by the viewport to the same size as the design layer objects ). Hatches will be the same scale and also viewport class overrides will effect both annotation and viewport objects the same. As the legends are typically symbols they can be placed on different sheets if required and when edited all update the same. Gets a bit tricky if I have different floor plans or sections at different viewport scales but typically all my floor plans and sections are the same scale (1:50 or 1:25).

If these are windoor objects then you can adjust the sill to match the width of your wall so to conceal the wall structure below. i don't use the window tool so if they are window objects then I can't say for sure but guess it could likely be resolved in similar way.

Thanks Wes. As I don't generally model the whole floor frame I would prefer to leave the floor components visible. I was hoping their would be another way to adjust the visibilities to put the beam "in front" of the floor. Like adjusting the draw order? Not sure if this is possible.

For multiple storey projects like this I sometimes create a design layer called "reference" which is at the top of the stacking order. In this I place the coloumns and grids so they are always visible in top/plan view. Also good for datum markers, section reference lines etc. Another technique is to have the columns only go one floor but turn them into a symbol that you can also have instances of on the other floor levels. I have a related issue perhaps someone can help with. i sometimes have beams or lintels occupying the same 3D space as floors or walls. However when I create a 3D section viewport the beams or lintels are concealed by the wall or floor objects. Send to front doesn't work. Any suggestions?

Thanks Pat. Yes I'm using 2016 too. No worries though as I have my file sorted now and I think my next large job I should be on 2018...

Thanks Pat. I'll try that. "Incantation" is an apt choice of words!

That is brilliant Raymond! Thank you. Perfect for me as I am sorting out my library of symbols so very useful.

I am finding a couple of things frustrating with space labels. I have a file with about 100 rooms so about 100 spaces objects. To set them all to have multiple labels I have to go through the settings dialogue of each one individually to turn on "use mulitple space labels" as this is not an option that can be put on the OIP. Similarly setting the class of the leader lines is not an option that can be put on the OIP so again I have to got througheach one individually. Note that neither one of these items comes up on@Pat Stanford's otherwise great script for list all PIO record fields. So these options can't be globally edited through a worksheet either. This is making the use of the labels quote tedious for me on this project.

This is a great idea as I too have class specific hatches that may need editing whenever their classes are edited. See also:

A couple of related wishlists: To have an "edit class" option in the right click/context menu. To have an "edit hatch" option in the class organisation dialogue as per below:

Agree with this list completely. For 1. I use the CSI number as a prefix to a keynote callout and place it into the same numbered legend effectively sorting keynotes into CSI numbered legends. For 2. It would be great to have a "find a callout" command in the keynote legend dialogue box. Sometimes I want to remove a callout from a legend but this can only be removed by deleting the callout. So I have to go through the whole file searching through my many callouts until I find the offending one to delete. For 5. Also linking callouts and worksheets would be a fantastic so that worksheets could access a keynote database and/or callouts in a file. Can I add an additional item to this list? 6. List Keynote legends in the OIP alphabetically and/or nummerically. When choosing which Keynote legend to place a callout in the object info palette it would be great if the legends listed alphabetically and/or numerically (using sheet numbers). I use a lot of Keynote legends and finding the right legend to place the callout in a long list of seemingly randomly listed legends is annoying.

Just tried this and it works! Is it easy to change this script it's inverse? (i.e.Remove all "by-class" settings of objects in a symbol).

I'd guess that the majority of people who use the forum are wanting quick answers to questions and are not going to want to spend time looking at a Wishlist. also the Wishlist is not that easy to find.

When my VW crashes I go to my last backup and often find that the backup was created the same time as the crash. Is the backup causing the crash? Fortunately this doesn't happen so often as to be a major problem. Interested to know if anyone else experiencing this. At the moment I have set backups for every 5 minutes.

I have done this by making my wall style attributes set to "by class" then using design layer viewports, one for the floor above and one for the floor below. I then use class overrides to change the line type of the wall class in the design layer viewports. For the sake of drawing tidiness I put the DLVP's on their own design layers but you could put them on dedicated classes instead. I then have a sheet layer viewport for my framing plan with the DLVP design layers (or classes) visible. If you do this you need to make sure these DLVP class overrides are maintained in the SLVP. There is a checkbox at the bottom of the SLVP classes edit window. This is a good way to get different visibilities or graphic attributes for objects on the same class but different design layers. hope that is useful cheers

Yes it was the Y key. Thanks!

I am having this problem too. Did you resolve this Jim?

Thank you Pat. I will have a look.

Vectorworks allows you to enter a description of a layer or class in the edit layer/class dialogue. This from VW Help about class descriptions (the same applies to layer descriptions): "The description displays as a screen tip when you position the cursor over the class name in the Organization dialog box, Navigation palette, or (on Mac only) the Classes list from the View bar. Descriptions also display in the New Classdialog box, so that you can see descriptions of classes before you import them". That is great however it seems to fall down when a new classes or layer is created by duplicating an extg one. I often duplicate classes or layers so that the new class/layer has the same attributes & viewport visibilites as the original. Unfortunately it also duplicates the class/layer descriptions which may then also not apply to the use of the new class/layer. I want to easily be able to manage these descriptions in my files however the descriptions aren't listed in the organisation dialogue box. Is there a simple script out there somewhere that can create a worksheet that lists the name and descriptions of classes and layers in a file? In addition it would ideally be possible to edit the descriptions straight from the worksheet.

I haven't used data visualisation yet but as it uses records you should be able to use worksheets to control symbol records Symblo object colour appearance. I have a few "housekeeping" type worksheets that I use in a similar way to control the appearance/display of things like drawing labels, space objects and title blocks.

I also use several nonplot classes which I can toggle on or off. Before printing or publishing I run a saved view which turns them all off and all other classes on.