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Bas Vellekoop

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  1. The new material resource is probably the way to go in combination with worksheets.

     

    In the past for product design i used it quite allot as can be seen in the attached picture. Then i used symbols and classes to get the right objects in the worksheet. This example is a sofa. But i used ut for the calculation of the weight of chandelier as well. It's good to know if the electric cord wil hold it 🙂

     

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  2. 12 hours ago, Bruce Kieffer said:

    I do agree there are some parts like screws and biscuits that are great as symbols, but not wooden parts, at least not until the design is completed. And I did try adding records to give me the info that Vectorworks is confused about. The problem with that is it's me entering the data, and if I make a change to the size of a part, then I need to also change the record. I use a worksheet to count objects, but I use Apple Numbers to make material cut lists.

     

    For screws etc it is great. For other parts of the design in my experience as well.

    With the option 'show other objects while in edit mode' editing is as easy as it would be just an object in the drawing. Its just right mouse click > edit 3d component

     

    With the creation of symbols of all the different parts of an (sub) assembly it is fairly easy to create separate design layers where you put each individual symbol on.  

    You can use these design layers for easy for editing (if needed), and they are ideal for setting up sheet layers of each individual part for annotating and dimensioning.

     

    The only thing I`m really missing is auto updating dimensions as in Fusion 360 or other more product design focused programs. auto updating dimensions would save allot of time and possible faults.

     

    Automatically filling record or worksheets with length height with is not possible, but  records for the creation of a Bill of Material can be very handy.

     

    This is a fairly simple one:

     

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    In combination with Data tags and design layer viewports it is even more fun  🙂 

     

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    And with some simple math you can get weight of your design and can change your design if that is needed based ont that.

     

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    And if you just want to show and annotate parts and create flat patterns with the bending lines etc. 🙂 :

     

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    So allot is possible with symbols 🙂 

     

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  3. When i did furniture design in VW I made extensive use of symbols. I would highly recommend it.

     

    I created a system where symbols < > design layers <> sheet layers correspond with each other.

    You have to keep your file clean and organized, but it works pretty great.

    All my parts had a P of product, all subassemblies an SA, and assemblies an A. following with a number. 

     

    Attaching a record format to the symbols creates the possibility of the creation of Bill of Materials with costs, finish, supplies etc. 

     

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    Now with the new modeling possibilities this workflow is even better. For subtractions you can now use symbols. If you use the hole tool in a symbol you can change every hole in just two steps. Vectorworks will update all subtractions where this symbol is used automaticlly 🎊🎊🎊

     

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    Attaci

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  4. 55 minutes ago, Pat Stanford said:

    I don't see any way to get any attributes of an object into a data tag, so the answer is probably no.

     

    Having and Attributes data set including Color names and line styles would probably be a good wish list item.

     

    Done 🙂 , please vote up 🙂  

     

     

     

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  5. I would be a big time saver if it was possible to get the names of the object attributes in a data tag.

     

    A - The names of the fill styles:

     

    • solid > color name
    • hatch > hatch name
    • pattern > pattern name and foreground and background color names
    • tile > tile name
    • gradient > gradient name
    • image > image name
    • when the fill style is set by class then then specified name in the class fill style

     

    B - The names of the pen styles:

     

    • solid > color name
    • pattern > pattern name and foreground and background color names
    • line type > name of line type and name of color
    • when the pen style is set by class then then specified name in the class pen style

     

    C - The line thickness

     

    D -The number of the marker

     

    Usercases: part B of this discussion:

    https://forum.vectorworks.net/index.php?/topic/79632-renderworks-textures-in-worksheet-name-of-color-in-a-data-tag/#comment-379286

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  6. 18 hours ago, Pat Stanford said:

    I don't believe it is possible directly.  Worksheets are only able to see objects that are present in the file (from a programming standpoint, objects that have handles in the drawing space). You might be able to apply the textures to objects on an extra layer and then get the information, but I have not tried it.

     

    Besides the worksheet: Would you think it would be possible to get the color name (the color name that is available in the color palette) in the in a Data tag?

     

    tagging @Wes Gardner as well because he seems a master in data tags 🙂 

     

     

     

    The way I would like to use it:

     

    I have a big project with 10 different types of materials.  These 10 materials can have all the colors available in the RAL color coding system.

    In order to prevent that i have to create all the classes for the 10 materials and the hundreds of different RAL-color I thought of setting the color of the material by the object fill in the attributes tablet.

     

    By doing it this way I can prevent the creations of hundreds of classes and can color object every object just the way I want.

     

    And if I can use a data tag to get the object fill / color name in a elevation i would be really happy 🙂

     

     

    1: Set the color of textures by 'Object Fill':


    image.thumb.png.197b8965b6df2939bca9e5f53ed79a4b.png

     

     

    2: Use the Attributes Pallete to override the standard color with a custom RAL-color

     

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    3: get the color name in a elevation with the use of a data tag:

     

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    Would this be possible?

     

     

     

     

  7. Hi all,

     

    2 questions:

     

    A: 

     

    I`m wondering if it is possible to get Renderworks textures in an worksheet with an image of the texture.

    The idea is to create elevations with data tags which refer to a worksheet for the: material, texture, color, ... 

     

    B:

     

    Is it possible to get the name of the chosen color fill in a data tag?

     

     

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  8. A workaround i found is the use of Design Layer Viewports for an assembley of symbols. This way you do not need nested symbols

     

    1 create the needed symbols

    2 create a separate design layer 'assembley truss 01'

    3 create the assembly of the symbols on the design layer

    4 make a design layer viewport of your assembly and use this on your main design layer

     

    Now you can still tag all of your symbols that are used through the design layer.

     

    I do not know if this gives you a performance hit. Maybe DLBP's are slower then a symbol with nested symbols? 

     

     

  9. 23 hours ago, Bruce Kieffer said:

    Is there a way to see in the OIP the Z height of an object no matter what type of object it is? Every object resides at defined coordinates in space on y drawing, yet I can't see those coordinates easily, and I want to.

     

    A Z-height for everything would be great!

    Maybe a wishlist-item for this?

  10. Almost everything in Vectorworks can be ungrouped. Design Layer Viewports can not.

     

    Wish:

     

    Ability to ungroup Design Layer Viewports so it imports geometry to the design layer where the viewport is on. This should be possible from within the document (from another layer) or an external document.

     

    Additional it would be nice if specific parts (objects / layers / classes) of a viewports could be imported into the model.

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  11. 3 hours ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

    No trouble at all!

    1. Yes. You can tell your Marionette to do whatever you want it to. (Always remember that you may need to regenerate it though!)

    2. Not for me to say.

     

    The exclamation point makes it seem that i should know what 'regenerate' in this situation means, I do not,  please help 😂

  12. 17 minutes ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

     Even if I did, it has nothing to do with how VWX implements anything 🙂

     

    Sorry, I do not get it I think 🙂

    If I was unclear then let me try to rephrase it. 

     

    1. Is it through a script or Marionette possible to create some sort of button that makes Vectorworks recalculate the CSG solids that are present in the VW file?

    2. Would through an VW enhancement request it be possible to add this as an automatic part of History-Based Modelling? (Vectorworks recognizes you changed a symbol that is used in a solid addition or subtraction and recalculates the CSG solid automatically?

     

    Thanks for your help and patience 🙂  

     

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, Stephan Moenninghoff said:

    The VWX event system does not notify CSG solids of changes to Symbols that are part of a boolean operation. I think this is the issue.

     

    Ah ok, hmmm, do you know if it is possible inside of Parasolid modeling kernel? 

    Is this the same as the VWX event system?

    Maybe Vectorworks can tap into this?

     

    Questions questions 🙂

     

  14. For designing furniture I use symbols as solid subtractions and solid additions.

    This helps allot in automating the drawing and designing proces.

    It prevents mistakes and the need of double checking stuff.

     

    A good example is sheet metal with several M5 screw holes

    For the screw holes I use an  M5  symbol which I use as an solid subtraction from the sheet metal.

     

    At the moment the proces is as follows:

     

    Step 1: draw sheet metal plate (extruded rectangle)

    Step 2: create an symbol of an M5 hole (extruded circle)

    Step 3: place symbols in the correct spot on the sheet metal

    Step 4: subtract the symbols from the sheet metal 

     

    Client says: use M6 instead of M5 screw.

     

    Step 5: change the symbol of the M5 hole to a M6 hole

    Step 6: go into the solid subtraction of the sheet metal so the symbols automatically  change from M5 to M6 (because of step 5)

    Step 7: go out of the solid substraction > tadddaa! all subtractions are M6 now without the need of editing every single hole one-by-one

     

    To my question:

     

    Is it possible to force Vectorworks to recalculate al the solid geometry so that you do not have to go back in al the different solid subtraction to make step 6 happen? (even when there are several levels with fillets, additions and ... of geometry?) 

     

    Would this something that could be accomplished with Marionette?

    Adding the Marionette Jedi Masters 🙂 @sbarrett @Marissa Farrell @Stephan Moenninghoff @DomC

     

     

     

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  15. Seeing how quick things go and the flu/virus spreads i completely understand this decision.

     

    As someone living in Europe / The Netherlands I can only say that you can not be to carefull about this. It is going pretty fast from something we made jokes about to empty fridges in the supermarket, the closing of museums, sport events and just all kind of gatherings .  In the Netherlands everyone who can work from home is expected to do this for the coming weeks. And that is probably not the last measure the government is going take to try to slow this thing as much as possible so the hospital's aren't going to 'overload'.

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  16. On 10/23/2019 at 8:22 PM, archdaly said:

    Did this feature ever get added to the functionality of VW?

     

    Furthermore, is there any way to change the plane of a mirrored extrude so it remains in context relative to other objects?

     

    Never been added, please vote up to get it higher on the wishlist.

     

    You can mirror it back, this makes it context relative again, but that is probabilly not what you want.

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