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Samuel Derenboim

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  1. Hi everyone,

    I do have a question regarding schedules, particularly those that are symbol styles (i.e. doors styles, windows styles, etc.)

    1. Is there a full list all the record format connection references in a complete guide for all objects? i.e. window.height, door.height, etc...

    I can create a worksheet with all records that are provided from the create worksheet menu, however, it's cumbersome doing this process for all styles in vectorworks.

    2. Is there a way to modify these records from a worksheet remotely? I've noticed that even if I unlock the parameters set (instead of them being controlled completely in them) in the styles, I can't modify them for ALL of the elements in a drawing, particularly if there is more than one symbol. I have to modify them one by one in the door/window dialogue box and in doing so its a very inconvenient procedure. Any help please?


    Thank you in advance!

  2. Just curious, does anyone have a mass import script for revit files handy?

    or perhaps something similar for marionette that would import and create symbols from revit libraries?

    Could be useful since alot of product manufacturers issue revit files only.

    Any takers? Willing to share some libraries after i'm finished.

  3. Is there currently a way a schedule can callout objects by their style in the database? I.E. Windows and Doors? etc...?

    or rather limit a function of windows or doors by their style type or name?

  4. Well i've narrowed it down, when i create the viewport from a clip cube, know the depth length and width of the viewport, it seems to render it fairly quickly. However, as soon as i turn on the markers layers for the windows, then it takes ages. By the way...by ages, I mean it freezes, and doesn't finish rendering...:/

    Any reason why?



    So for some reason when i assign a different class to a marker, it doesn't render, but when i keep the marker in the window class, it renders. Could this be a bug? I assigned an Anno layer only for markers...

    I have a total of 200 windows, maybe 1/3 are showing on this layer....Also, does the length of characters in the markers depend on rendering time? I know they're opengl, so i figured it shouldn't matter, no? 



  5. 3 hours ago, Alan Woodwell said:

    @Samuel DerenboimHi, have you purged recently and got rid of all your unwanted textures? they can bulk up a file quickly, also using patterns rather than hatches also cause the file size to grow. Images?? if you have imported then and scaled them down in VW can also grow the file exorbitantly. If you clean these things up you should reduce the file size and things should go faster.HTH

    Thanks on the tip Alan, 

    My file is pretty tidy in terms of textures, hatches, etc... I try to use line work, hatches and textures only once. I try not to use patterns because they require opengl, and i prefer to render in hidden line format. 

    I do have a lot of classes open, but I will be using them in the near future. Can empty classes really slow down a file by that much?

    Either way, I'll purge, will tell how it works out. Thanks !

  6. Good afternoon everyone,


    I've worked with vectorworks for quite a while in a few different firms, however, only the past year and a half did I really get into the parametric end and BIM end of vectorworks. I do love the features and time saving elements in vectorworks that vectorworks allows you to customize on your own or are inherently in the BIM elements. Having said that, when working with larger projects - i have come up to a few issues when working with larger and larger projects.


    Since I need to often share information with engineers and clients, they prefer the information in CAD. This means that all of my plans and elevations need to be exportable (not rendered in OpenGL). Whenever a project grows larger and larger in size (multiphased) the harder it is to work with the file itself. Why should a line rendering take 5-10 minutes???? But then again, it could also be the workflow.

    Generally what i do is store the entire project in one file rather than several. It doesn't take as long to update references stored in a separate file and is generally more responsive that way.

    But, i recently reached a 600 mb threshold, and i'm having a major problem rendering all of the elevations. Could this be a problem with the amount of information stored?

    All my walls are brick, and some elements have stone work...which could make the renderings intricate, however, this is unintentional. Using regular hatches should make it easier to render. Does anyone have any tips? or feedback? Maybe similar experiences?

    Thanks alot everyone!




  7. 59 minutes ago, Alan Woodwell said:

    @Samuel DerenboimHi, Definitely something wrong with this file. All works ok in my new file, copy one of your annotations over and its bad. Must be something corrupt there.

    The only fix I could get to work is to delete all the keynotes and copy the rest over to a new file and redo the notes and the problem did not reoccur.

    I wish it was that easy. But after i have 18 layers, and 19 references sheet layers and almost completed sheets, its very hard to redo the callouts....i was hoping there would be an easier way to fix this?

    Also, does this mean there's a bug? or the file itself is just corrupt? and if so, how do i go about avoiding this problem in the future?


    Thank you in advance!

  8. On 1/1/2017 at 4:36 PM, Pat Stanford said:

    Post the most clear and detailed version you can of what you would like to see the tool do in a new thread in the Feedback:Wishlist forum. You don't need to provide the how of how it will work. And you probably DON'T want to include details like where the buttons should be and what the labels should say, but a good explanation of why the current tool does not work for you and what benefit it will give you if the features you are requesting are added.




    Sorry for the bother again, there seems to be a bug - after heavily using the callout tool, it starts to behave very oddly. I am attaching a sample file where the callout tool has been corrupted.


    Problems include:

    In design layer view port -

    1. An additional leader element is added to the callout tool (usually on the right or left side - there is an unnessary line)

    2. Note is slightly offset when adding and additional leader that gets in the way of the text.

    In Sheet layer viewport

    1. Callout is displaced drastically from leaders

    2. Shoulder length function or text margin doesn't solve the issue.

    In annotation Layer viewport

    1. When placing a new callout - leader only is called from the left side of the callout, and cannot be switched normally - unless the mirror function is used.

    2. Cannot delete leaders in annotation mode.


    All problems therein have been bubbled. You can test it yourself, could you confirm it behaves similarly? and if so, is there a way to fix it?

    In new files, this problem doesn't seem to persist, but who knows? I just recently started using the callout tool.


  9. 1 minute ago, Pat Stanford said:

    In the language of programmers this is not a bug. It is likely a design error, but not a bug. If you file it as a bug, it will be marked as WAD (Working as Designed) and nothing will ever change.


    You need to report this as an Enhancement Request or a wish. Then the powers that be will see where to sort it into the priorities for future version of VW.

    Thank you Pat, How do i go about doing this?

  10. Good afternoon everyone, 

    first would like to start off by saying happy new years ! 


    I've been playing around a little bit with the callout tool, however i discovered a bug.

    I've been trying to create a symbol detail library to reference for standard wall details - and i've recently discovered the callout tool (earlier posts)

    I really like the feature it has where it can generate a legend for a series of callouts - and then just that legend can be modified for that particular element.

    But i don't think this tool has been fully developed.


    The callout tool isn't designed to be inserted into symbols, something ive been trying to do. It loses its properties and generates a separate note for every callout every time it's dropped,

    something that i don't want to keep fixing all the time.

    Could anyone please confirm this is the case? Does anyone else think this is a bug?



  11. 1 hour ago, Pat Stanford said:

    Each item or SUMmed item in a database takes up the entire row. There is no way to put items in a database side by side.


    The one possible work around is to put the worksheet on a layer and then make multiple cropped viewports and put them side-by-side to get the view you want.


    Thank you for the suggestion. I figured it wasn't possible. I've been using this method thus far, just thought there might be a quicker way to do this.

  12. 11 hours ago, Pat Stanford said:

    Columns can be added to a worksheet through either the INSERT menu at the top of the worksheet or by hovering at the bottom right corner of the worksheet and dragging after the cursor changes to an L with a square in the corner.



    Thank you for you that Pat,

    Is it possible to continue information in a database in an adjacent column though?

    I.E. Lets say i have a database connection with 2 column references, and i have a total 4 column worksheet.

    Would i be able to say continue the database information on the 3rd and 4th column after i reach 10 rows of records?

  13. UPDATE: 

    Apparantly the call out tool is a really great resource for keynote legends. Pardon my ignorance, i just recently discovered this feature.

    A great thing about this feature is that it has an option for additional columns - which is great!

    However, i do have a question : 

    Is there any way to add additional columns to either :

    1. Worksheets - if it exceeds a certain width / length 


    2. General notes tool. There is no option for this in the general notes tool - a huge limitation!

  14. Good afternoon everyone,


    I've been working on a set where i have alot of callouts for plans, elevations and sections that seem to be repetitive but not parametric, and i've been wondering...

    Is there a way to combine notes database with a callout tool or perhaps a bubble revision tool? I've been thinking of a simpler way of marking up notes by using annotation bubble revision markers and linking them to notes that are shown separately on the sheet in list form. There are multiple reasons why this is a useful feature

    1. CSI can be embedded into notes parametrically - unifying elements in the project to specifications without any deviation to notation

    2. Simply the callout process in plans - and eliminate clutter by referencing notes beside the plans.

    3. No errors in documentation

    4. Information is centralized - and modification to notes or finishes can be made remotely.

    5. Notation tool does not need to be updated independently from the bubble revision callouts - they're intended to work simultaneously.


    Method -

    My current method is simple - i created a 2 custom record fields one for number, the other for description of the object - and reference those records in a table for that layer only. I however - end up having to make one table for each layer (floor plans, rcp, tenant protection plans, fire safety plans, etc...) which is the only nuisance. I end up having 10 - 20 worksheets just for that set.


    Is there a way to combine this method with the notation tool? and is there a way to eliminate duplicates? perhaps a method that would allow us to use one worksheet dynamically?

    Either way, I know this feature doesn't exist, but i figure , if anyone has any ideas how to combine these tools, i'm all ears? perhaps Nemetchek will hear us?


    Thanks everyone!

  15. Good afternoon everyone, 


    This is more of a wish list item more than anything. Dealing with different engineers that work in autocad, i find it a bit frustrating to export elevations with hatches in BIM mode to be converted into linework. More importantly, when selecting option for hatches to be converted to a separate layer, any exported elevation (not plans) hatches in vectorworks aren't converted to a different layer, instead they remain in the original layer of the wall type class. As a result the dwg files become bloated and hard to modify. Any way to change this?

    I know a workaround, however, its a bit cumbersome - which essentially converts any surface into a poly - that can use hatch information. This exports just fine into required hatches, just a nuissance to do for every job.

    Perhaps there is another way? 

    Thanks in advance !!


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  16. I have a bit of experience with this. As a tip, I wouldn't recommend converting them to individual 3d loci - as it will increase the file size tremendously. 

    What I would do however are several things.

    When you import the entire .pts file or .laz or .las I would put it on a separate design layer and do not touch it.

    Then i would use the clip club to get the proper section cut you need, however deep you need it. So lets say your pts file will have a high elevation of 7', and a low elevation at 3'-0" - use the clip cube to clip that precise amount. 

    When you finish doing that, right click the top face of the clip cube, and select convert to viewport. This is important - Use a design layer viewport instead of a sheet layer viewort as you can snap the points. Also, point cloud information only works in openGL - not in architectural plan mode, so bear in mind when you do that. (use the number 5 key on the number key pad to go into plan view mode for opengl). Otherwise you will not see the section information inside the viewport. 


    The great thing about this technique is that when you assign the design layer viewports for multiple levels, you can change the depth in the section viewport properties, so if you need 1", itll use 1", if you need a foot depth, it can do that as well.

    Same goes for sectional information.


    This definitely takes a bit of practice, however, definitely useful. This technique is for Dynamic informational use - when drawing your plans.


    If, however you want to make slices, the point cloud tool has the option to delete all other information when you create your slice. I would recommend looking into the tools tutorials. But you definitely don't need cloud compare or any other software to get the sectional point cloud information.


    hope this helps!

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  17. On 12/2/2016 at 8:14 PM, Pat Stanford said:

    I don't remember ever using str2num in a worksheet. I think the option in worksheets has always been Value(). Very similar operation.


    Sorry to bug you again, 

    is there a way to show the dimensions of all sides of a space? not just the length or the width? In the New York jurisdiction the plan examiners are very meticulous to zoning floor areas, and as a result ask us not just to show the dimensions but show the areas and calculations of every space adding up to the whole. This requires Architects in New York to subdivide all areas into rectangles, squares, trapezoids and/or triangles. 

    When you have a trapezoid in Vectorworks however, the length of width function only shows the dimension of the larger length, not the smaller one, and not even an average between the two - which is something used in calculating the area of a trapezoid. 

    so my question is :

    1 - any way we can call out/show all the dimensions of a space?

    2 - using average(length) or average(width) still wouldn't work to call out the average between the two unequal sides. any workaround?

  18. 2 hours ago, Pat Stanford said:

    a formula similar to =ROUND(VALUE(A1)*12)/12 with the cell set to a Dimension format should round to the nearest inch. Just replace the A1 with a valid string representation of a dimension.  If you already have it as a number, just skid the value part.


    What do you mean str2num doesn't work. It was fine in the test I just ran in a script. Do you mean in a worksheet or a script?


    i was referring to the worksheet. shouldn't  Str2num work the same way in converting a database string entry into a number format? I believe it worked for me earlier. I will double check at home, since i have done a few experiments with this already, but a while back. 


    By the way, =Round string worked perfectly!, Thank you Pat!

  19. On 9/25/2016 at 10:01 PM, michaelk said:


    Typing a value into the cell of a column that calls a record format field like ='Space'.'11_User-Def Info 1' is exactly the same thing as SetRField( SpaceHand ,'Space','11_User-Def Info 1',StringOccRating); in the script.

    A worksheet is great at taking the value from a record format field or fields and performing arithmetic on those values.  But it can't then move that value from the cell where the calculations were done to the cell connected to ='Space'.'11_User-Def Info 1' without scripting help.

    Or just copy / paste.

    I often find it faster (because I script at a glacial pace) to have a separate worksheet that has both the calculated values and the calls for the fields into which I want to insert data.  Then you can just copy the values in one column and paste them to the other.





    Quick question, 

    is there a string that allows a database header to round a number to the nearest inch? In other words, lets say i have a space thats 6'5.324" x 4'7.643" - when displaying the length and width and areas - is it possible to round these numbers to the nearest inch? like 6'5" x 4'8" ...etc?


    Also, str2num doesn't work in vw 2017 anymore...am i missing something?


  20. Alan, Thank you for that! Although a great feature request would be to have a low point for the roof and a high point for the roof in the tools itself - without specifying rise/run or angle. It should calculate it automatically. Infact - it would be great if it was combined with stories - similar to the way stairs work. Wouldn't that be a sight? :)

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