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  1. Really, Petri, surely you would agree that Singapore is a civilized country as well.
  2. Sounds like VW is reading one dimension in feet and the other in inches.
  3. kenzo, set your model layer z value to 56.2 m. Then you can work on it with a "datum" of zero relative to the layer, and stack layers and layer linking will show it at the absolute height you desire. It looks as though your model setup should have done that for you, but since the results don't look right, go into the layer and look at the layer z values to check. I do agree strongly with Petri's request for a better system of setting a datum. I've always thought Archicad had the better idea - you can toggle between viewing objects relative to a user-defined z value datum and absolute z value. Islandmon, by now you are probably shaking your head over the silly refusal of EU folks to use a proper decimal point! (Just a joke - wait! Ow! Ooof! Stop!)
  4. Christiaan, I have complained about the ability to set class overrides in DLVPs. This now makes it more complicated to use classes to sort the visibility of objects in design layers. As you point out, this is an inconsistency in light of the philosophy that design layers are for design, sheet layers are for output. I understand the occasional need to have text in a design layer to make notes, etc. But why does it need to be through the vehicle of annotations? You can put the notes right in the layer. The reason for annotation space in a regular Sheet Layer VP is so that you can have VP's with different scales on the sheet and easily control scaling issues by having things "belong" to each VP's annotation space. I would never use a DLVP to bring something into a design layer at a different scale, and I can't imagine the need to do such a thing. I think this is the reasoning behind not having a separate annotation space for the DLVP. I know you're thinking, "well, if it's a type of viewport, WHY NOT have annotations?" I think the answer there is that DLVPs might be based on different technology - my understanding is that they are an adaptation of layer links. Just a guess on my part, maybe Katie could confirm that.
  5. Hi Katie, looks like we have 2 screen flicker threads now! As reported in the other thread, I have two computers, one a laptop, and neither has the ipoint.exe process. Both have nearly identical flickering problems (blue bar at top of window flickers at ~4 cps, number of flickers varies from 0 - 30). One computer (Dell 690) has the NVIDIA Quadro 3450/4000 SDI video card with the driver supplied by Dell tech support (v and a Dell optical mouse with MS driver 5.2.3790.1830. The other (HP ZD8000) has the ATI Mobility Radeon X600 video card with driver v and both Synaptics touchpad (driver and MS Intellipoint bluetooth mouse with driver v 5.1.2600.0. HTH!
  6. I have flicker on two computers, one of which is a Dell and the other of which is an HP laptop. The latter has an MS Intellipoint bluetooth mouse, but neither shows ipoint.exe as a process. Steve, was your flicker the same as mine (i.e., a ~4 cps flicker of the blue band at the top of your application window)?
  7. James, change the fill attribute of your polyline to "none." Then decompose your polyline and it will become a series of lines and arcs, etc. The reason your fill is so wonky is probably because VW adds a connecting side when you have something like an "S" shaped polyline. That side connects the two ends, crosses over the shape, and causes the fill to be odd. If you decompose the two sides of your road, put lines at the ends to create a completely enclosed space, then select all the objects and compose them, you can then fill successfully.
  8. Hi Katie, that was a great piece of research, but unfortunately it doesn't apply to my situation. I have no ipoint.exe process. I also notice that during the flickering associated with selection of an object, the OIP does not register any object data until the flickering has ceased. The above applies to both v12.5.2 and v2008. The flickering is worse in 2008. Pete, thanks also for your input. I don't think I'll be cracking the case on my Dell 960 anytime soon, much less tinkering with the wires inside! But next time I'm there I'lll look around for that, and if I find something I'll call Dell tech support.
  9. I don't have an Intellipoint mouse or Intellipoint driver. I have a version of the screen flicker where just the top blue bar of my application window flickers at about 4 cps. This occurs on the final click of creating an object, or when I select an object. The duration of flickering seems to depend on whether the object or type of object has been recently created or selected. It can be as little as one blink (or none), or as many as 20 or 30 blinks. I'm curious - how would you describe the flicker you have been experiencing?
  10. I use Petri's method to remove voids in the poly, very efficient. I wouldn't care to have each modified 2d poly carry with it it's history of clipping, adding, etc. I think it would add too much overhead to the file size. Besides that, if you notice, 3d boolean objects are no longer extrudes, they are a different object type (a necessary complication, if you think about it). So if your idea were implemented, once you clipped a 2d poly it would then become a different object type and couldn't be clipped or otherwise modified with 2d reshape, etc. With Petri's method and with multiple-vertex reshaping, I think there are sufficient methods to deal with the issue. And a solid subtraction isn't a bad way to go, by the way. Just extrude all your holes or cutting shapes at once to make a single subtraction solid. Then you can add to, subtract from, or edit the set of 2d objects to make changes in your hole pattern. I do it all the time, and no complaints!
  11. We've asked for this before, but once again can only help move this along! It is long past due that VW accommodate this common condition.
  12. Assign a class to the label in your window or door PIO dialog box (ID Class field). With Info Editor (an inexpesive 3rd party plugin) you can do this en masse in one operation. Make that class not visible where you want the display suppressed.
  13. Christiaan, thanks for that link. Though it addresses mainly Mac issues, by generalization the same applies to Windows. What comes through to me is the "clean break" notion. In rewriting programs to conform to 64 bit, all software will be able to part ways with a bunch of accumulated crud. It means some transition headaches, but we've been around long enough to know that we can deal with it. I don't think any of us would like to go back to the 16 bit days of MiniCAD. Also, it's good news for 64 bit advocates that new Macs by default will be on a 64-bit capable OS. Katie: I think it is true that 32 bit emulation on Windows x64 systems is slightly faster than execution on a 32 bit OS. The driver problem you talk about has been my most negative experience - plus, there is the problem in the case of older 32 bit software, that would otherwise be able to run on a 64 bit OS, if they have a 16 bit INSTALLER, they can't be installed.
  14. Mike, I agree. If we can just get the conversion from legacy files to work properly (i.e., multiple links can now be consolidated into one VP with multiple-layer visibility, but the converter won't do that). We asked for better management tools for layer links some while back, and though the 2008 literature doesn't seem to trumpet it, this is just what we got with Design Layer Viewports. I'll be really interested to see how Stack Layer Views stacks up against Design Layer VP's as a way to explore and work with a 3d model.
  15. Christiaan, if you batch convert, I'd recommend not converting layer links to Design Layer Viewports. I've discovered what I think is a bug in the saved-view treatment of class visibilities when that option is selected. I'm sure you're going to test this on a couple of projects first, no?
  16. Jonathan, do you find that the design layer "viewports" navigate in 3d in the way layer links did? I take it that these viewports are really modified layer links.
  17. Peter, are you talking about version 12 or 2008?
  18. Stack layers doesn't eliminate the need for layer links because you can't use 2d tools except in plan view, and you can't save a stack layers view (in VW 2008 you can save as a view, but still can't use 2d tools).
  19. I've been running VW 12.5.2 and VW 2008 on Win XP x64 for over a year.
  20. Mike, Chris, et al., let's step back and look at the issues raised here and ask what it's worth asking NNA to spend engineering priorities on. Frankly, the improvements to 3d smart objects Mike's been asking for have to be way higher on the list. I think the important things to think about are: 1) how to more easily and powerfully set defaults, including rethinking what things should have default settings, and 2) how to make the use of classes as a way to set graphic styles more powerful and easier. And, along the way, how to make all the concepts involved here clearer and more intuitive for the new user. I really don't think that the AP is an "annoying little palette with no rational reason for existence," to roughly paraphrase the opening post. It does, in its imperfect way, embody graphic characteristics common to most objects (rational reason 1), and it does act to set defaults (rational reason 2). Perhaps there is good reason to rethink and rearrange things, but not in the simplistic terms proposed.
  21. Chris, right, I expect that would be reasonably easy to script. Unfortunately for me (or fortunately, depending on your perspective), I haven't had the inclination to get into yet another programming language! All the same, I think that things people would find useful would best be built into the program.
  22. I'd like to see a button, which could live on the OIP or the Attributes Palette (could even be a drop-down command) that would convert the graphic attributes of all selected objects to "by class" (including rendering texture). As it is now, we have to make those settings in two places, and we have to complete several operations to do it. I'd like this not to be a preference, but something to automate changing over all the settings. That way, we could change one or more back so that only some settings would be controlled by class designation. This would make it easier for folks to operate in a setup whereby some or all graphic attributes are controlled by class, and make it easier to convert things to that way of using VW.
  23. The SIMPLE solution is to dock the Attributes Palette right above the OIP on your screen. This may not satisfy purists who want everything in the OIP, but having it right there would do the job. This is a fine debate on the virtues of using Classes as a way to assign attributes, but doing away the AP is a quite separate issue. What to my mind would be much more useful for power users of Classes is a check box, either in the OIP or the AP or both, called "assign attributes by class" that would automatically convert all graphic attributes (including texture) to "by class," a setting that would be reflected in the AP where it could be tweaked if you wanted an object to retain an override with respect to line color or any other attribute. The problem with putting everything in the OIP is twofold. One, the OIP is already too long to fit on my screen for certain kinds of objects. Two, the OIP does not set defaults, where the AP does. And speaking of that, defaults are now set in more than one place (the AP, the active class, to name two). I think default settings deserves its own window, so that these can be edited in one place, and the whole set of defaults, including for the various PIOs, should be importable from one document to another.
  24. Yes, the process can seem complicated. But if you have your first and second floor done, the method I gave you will work very easily. Jonathan is very knowledgeable, and has great experience conveying how to work with VW. The VW manual tells you how things work, but doesn't necessarily give you step-by-step methods for doing things in a practical way. Just be aware of the "layer z" setting. It adjusts the layer links so that the second floor will be higher than the 1st floor. Or, alternatively, you can create your second floor with layer z = 0 and just elevate the walls to the desired height. That's the way I work. Either way, when you assemble the model on a single layer using Layer Links, everything will come in at the correct height. PS, didn't mention this, and it should be obvious, but it never hurts to be explicit: if your lighting is on a separate layer, you need to "layer link" that in as well if you want to view the lighted model via its design layer. Set the general lighting for the model layer to get an overall lighting effect, the "sun" should give you shadows and greater light on surfaces facing the sun.
  25. I think what you are saying is that we need to be able to adjust origin, rotation (and scale?) of the associative hatch. Already wish-listed a while back, let's hope NNA is working on this, as well as the ability to create user-generated hatches from drawing elements.
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