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  1. Looking for some help. There are a number of situations where I am creating a stair and the number of risers on the first flight will be less than 3 (sometimes 0) Example: In a domestic situation where the stair starts on a winder - this is currently impossible to achieve as the winder requires (in vectorworks) to be preceded by at least three risers. I have tried to many times and never managed to get round this problem. First picture shows what it should look like (manually drawn - and constructed / passed regulations etc.) and the others shows the best I can achieve from vectorworks. Any suggestions??
  2. Has anyone else noticed that when doing a batch revision with the Title border on a sheet, only the sheet that is active at the time is updated and you manually have to pick each sheet and select the title border , select the revisions and 'click' on the OK before the 'current revision number' on the sheet is updated? Also, when doing a batch pdf export and selecting the current revision number to be appended - the pdf file is invariably named with 'none' as the suffix and not the revision letter. I am using 2018 SP3 (Build 418943)
  3. Please tell me I am being stupid, but I am getting sick and tired of having to remember to basically reinstall my entire system every time there is a service pack upgrade. Examples: Title borders - I do not use VW title borders, I have my own. I would very much like to have the whole office use the same file so that we are all on the same version every time. But in order to do that I have to make sure there is a copy of the title borders in each person's user directory. After the last service pack update I have now lost total access to my title blocks - I have to open up an old drawings and copy them over in the resource manager - Not very efficient workflow. I do recall reading in the Techboard that there is a way to update resources. I am not a computer engineer, I have looked and looked for it, but I cannot find it so I am stuck. Can VW not be directed to a network folder to access company resources and have local files removed? I have tried over many years to do this, but for some reason everything defaults to local files and each time you install a service pack - it writes locally and does not allow the resources to be networked.
  4. Alan, You have hit this right on the head - That is my point. However VW openly advertises that it is designed to produce GA drawings (plans, sections and elevations that are accurate and suitable for purpose - without having do anything to the model - to a scale of 1:50. It clearly cannot do this as at this level of detail we are expected to show doors and windows in the correct position within a wall, with a reveal etc. I have always said that VW (or any of the other design tools out there) will never be able to do this. I am just sick and tired of every year getting told of product enhancements that are going to improve my productivity - The door and window tools are probably the poorest and most problematic plug-ins that VW has. I have no issues with drawing full scale details (1:5 / 1:10) and referencing them and attaching full specifications etc. It would just be nice for VW (as don't get me wrong, it is a very good piece of software) to admit what it can and cannot do. Some examples: Inserting Door and Window using styles - Works great until you start adding components on to the walls, its then fails miserably when you try and make any changes (everything resets to default) Drawing roads - Works great until you have a corner or a bend, or perish the thought, change the road type to a shared surface then back to a normal road. You should be able to simply draw a polygon and convert to a road (with the road widths varying to suit what you want) and being able to add pavements / cycle paths / service strips etc. as and when you want. Currently, I have to draw all of my site layouts as simple lines with hatches in 2D and not even think about using a site model. Don't get me started on roofs - good for sketching, but nothing more.
  5. I have now been using VW Architect since 2008. Each year I get told of the improvements to modelling and other enhancements which make my 'workflow' easier and that I should be able to produce construction drawings directly from the model. I am afraid to say, that to my knowledge, VW is not able to create a working section drawing that can accurately reflect an opening within an external wall construction or even how a roof intersects with a wall without having to completely mask out the junction that VW creates an impose a 2D hand-drawn section over it. The problem which I have is do I continue to accept that VW cannot do this, or are VW going to put their hands up, admit the software doesn't do what they say it does and get it fixed. I have already mentioned in previous posts that Or do I start looking elsewhere for something that does work???
  6. Nikolay, Sorry - I've just noticed that you said "autobuild folder", which if I am correct, means the folder that is created by VW. I added my title blocks to that folder and guess what they don't appear - Also, when I delete the VW title blocks, they still appear in the resource manager (but are no longer there as they have been deleted) and mine do not appear - they only ever appear in the drawing which they currently exist. The only way for me to get a title border in a drawing is (from what I have seen and tried) to open a previous drawing and direct the resource broker to it and then copy to.
  7. Nikolay, A bug report was submitted this morning. On the location of the standard title blocks - where was this shown in the documentation? Very strange location. I made the title block folder a shared dropbox folder, with the master copy on the server - Not ideal, but it works. Would have liked to be able to direct the libraries to a server folder directly - but you don't allow that. Any reason??
  8. Nikolay, I have been too busy (trying to earn a living) to respond the the last few posts on this, but - I tried that. The revisions in my case go upwards no matter what formatting is chosen in this new title block settings (believe me I have tried) - As I have now said a few times, this 'enhancement' was rolled out with absolutely no consideration of the existing users. My title blocks are created using a custom block and graphics (not anything from VW) - something that was promoted by VW as part of the design series versions of VW to which I had added fields which linked the drawing number to the sheet number, the description to the sheet name and so on. This allowed my drawings to be formatted and issued in a very similar way to what the new title block settings do for 2018 - I can no longer do this as you have removed the facility to keep using our old title blocks for legacy projects and forced us to change the way that we operate. As a result, I cannot use any drawing that was created in 2017 in 2018 as I am unable to issue a revision to a drawing - unless you think it is acceptable that I throw everything out of the window, explode the title block and manually do revisions as text??? Putting this catastrophic 'xxxx-up' to one side - VW has also removed the possibility of having office standards. All new title borders in VW2018 are machine and user specific and the only title blocks which can be accessed seem to be VW title blocks with no way of sharing them apart from manually copying them from drawing to drawing as there is no guidance whatsoever on how to share them - I have tried to find the location off the title borders - with no success, they seem to have been hard coded into the software. This is still a major problem - can someone please provide some meaningful guidance to do at least the following: How to remove the VW standard title blocks and replace them with our own - We don't want your, they are of no use How to import custom title blocks that utilised the VW revision box made up from previous versions of VW (say 2017) and either retain their functionality - and I mean the revisions, or import them in a working format into the new system How to share office standards (again specifically with title blocks) for more than one user and machine. Kevin C.
  9. Also, Can someone please advise where custom title blocks are stored - and how can they be made available to the rest of the office?? I do not use any of the standard title blocks (never have done) as they are not fit for purpose. Take as an example - Where is the standard attribute box do we input the client details? - Do you not have clients? Is there a way that they can be deleted from the system?
  10. I am in agreement with Haydenovative on this one. This is the first time in all my years of losing vectorworks that a new version has lost significant functionality. A lot of the 'improvements' which have been brought in over the years have been brought in in such a way that we have been able to adapt and change our workflows over time to suit, but this change in the title border is fundamental to producing drawings. Other supposed improvements like Marionette (which I have never had the time to even look at), have been brought in a way that as users we can choose whether to use or not, the title border is a cornerstone of producing information and is required every time I create and issue a drawing. There are so many other things which Vectorworks could and should be concentrating on fixing, this should have been way down the list. There was not much wrong with the title block, it just needed a few tweaks to get it perfect. Vectorworks should have given clear guidance for this change when 2018 was released. I would like to see what the brief was that was given to the Engineers for this, as it has either been completely ignored or the brief was wrong.
  11. This is not uncommon. I have had 2 different ways of solving the problem - don't know which is better. (I'm operating an iMac). For some reason VW struggles when zooming and scaling pdf's - annoying but always solvable. I just zoom in to or scale the pdf then cut the pdf and paste it back to the original position (then send to back) - This usually works Save, close and re-open the drawing - this also seems to work when the first option doesn't want to play ball. Kevin.
  12. All (including Jim). I decided to take the plunge and roll out VW2018 after the SP1 release at the weekend - I should not have done so. There are still major problems with 2018. Title Blocks - The issue raised previously by me has not been corrected. In fact, when one of my staff tried to 'update' an old drawing, we found an even more serious problem. If the title block / sheet used the revision box (which I have done on every project since VW 2008), the revision box disappears on the updated title border. It now has disappeared altogether. The revision data is still there, but now there is no way of showing the revisions without creating a custom revision box. I tried to recreate the revision box manually, but the text formatting will only go upwards irrespective of the formatting chosen in the title border setup - this is potentially a hang up from the original revision box setup. This is unforgivable and whoever overlooked it should lose their job. I can see myself having to backwards save everything to 2017 and reinstall last year's VW in each of my mac's - I had to delete the old program due to lack of hard drive space. I know that VW cannot move backwards, but do the engineers at VW not test these things in the real world. I am aware of 2 VW Beta testers who both have one thing in common - neither of them use VW in real world scenario's (they are 1 an academic and 2 a VW authorised trainer). These are the worst people to test the software, they do not operate in a real world situation and have no comprehension that the vast majority of work is done whilst working with legacy drawings and bringing things in from previous projects (and libraries). I have not had the time to check whether the shifting title block has been fixed, I am only assuming that since the forum is now quite on this matter - the problem has been solved. Another problem which has surfaced is the crashing. 2018 is crashing regularly and with consistency. Take for example trying to match properties - specifically walls. I have a library of wall types, different walls for different clients etc. Trying to match properties with the eyedropper seems to force a crash nearly every time. Jim, there are some serious issues with this release of VW and it needs to be sorted. I even resorted to phoning the VSS priority support line and while the guy was helpful to a point, there is nothing that they can actually do without getting a copy of the drawing, interrogating it for a day or two, then admit that there is an issue and then raise it as a bug with VW. To finish off, can someone please tell me what actual improvements in the software have been done for this year (I'm talking specifically VW Architect) I have seen: Multiple Drawing Views / Direct Section and Elevation Editing - These are just catching up to what everyone else has been doing for years, they are very pretty, but dare I say won't offer much of a product enhancement Improved Graphic Output for Architectural Documents and Robust Wall modelling - It will probably be Christmas before I have the time to even look at this. Improved Revit import - What about Export??? Streamlined Drawing distribution - I'm sorry, this is a joke - It just doesn't work These are some of the improvements which I would like to see. The problems with the doors and windows which was hinted at? What has happened to these A working stair tool - One that allows me to build a stair that can cater for more than a 2 storey building A handrail tool that allows for 3D and 2D - Ie a handrail that wraps round a stair / stops and starts where I want it to. Notes tool that actually works - I do not know anyone who uses the notes as you cannot format notes and you cannot import from word (for example) Ability to create a section that can be extrapolated to a detail level (showing components - like independent cills and lintels) Ability to parametrically model floors, walls & roofs and edit components individually - having the ability to add peaks and troughs to each component These are not sexy - but will make everyone's life a lot better. Kevin.
  13. Jim, I have no issues with the new Title Block setup, once you get around the dialogue boxes (which there are a few) because VW is trying to bring together issues / revisions and borders - which is a good thing. It is relatively straightforward, even adding custom data fields - or swapping out the old for new ones, The 2 problems that still remain with the custom title block are: The shifting of the title block to the page centre. This is actually a VW created problem, as every title block that I have created has always been 'locked to page centre' I have never shifted the title form origin. I do not even change the drawing origin because of all the previous issues that VW has with shifted origins. It is normal for say a site development drawing to be located at a position which coordinates can be derived from and related to. This means that site drawings will never be anywhere near 0,0. The inclusion of the 'none' text field when the dataset is empty. If there is no revision on a drawing, it is issued without a revision. As I have said before in this post. I am currently unable to roll out VW 2018 for these 2 points, there are some other minor glitches which others have mentioned re 2018, but I hope that these will all be sorted in SP1. I can work into the late hours of the night re-positioning viewports and drawings (which will take weeks if not months) to suit a title block which has had the page re-centred by the software, but if I ask my staff to do it, they will expect to do it as part of their daily workload, which I will have to pay for and not get any fees for in return..
  14. I was finding VW2018 crashing when trying to update an unstyled wall to one from my library. VW crashed every time I used the eyedropper - so I don't think it was dwg import based. the drawings were 100% native Vectorworks.
  15. I am currently unable to use VW2018 due to constant crashing - seems particularly when using the eyedropper tool when matching properties. I am waiting till SP1 comes out before I will consider rolling 2018 out to the rest of the office. There are a lot of very annoying bugs in 2018, the biggest one being the title block fiasco.
  16. You have to convert them to the new format. I am now unfortunately in the position where I am unable to roll VW2018 out to the rest of the office as there are too many issues with 2018, it is also crashing a heck of a lot, specifically when using the eyedropper tool matching properties of walls to predefined wall types.
  17. Agreed, We do not live in a perfect world where conventions are always followed by everyone in the design team. We have to get the job done quickly and efficiently and most importantly make a profit, or else what is the point.
  18. This is a bug - not new to 2018. It happens when you have internal or external components and want to position doors or windows in walls 'properly' and not rely on them being centred in the structure. I will have to be honest it is a hit and miss whether VW spits its dummy out on this one. If anyone has a solution for this one - please let us know. K.
  19. Thanks Samuel, Just tried that and it seemed to work for one file (10 drawing sheets had to be re-centred). To solve it this is what I did. Draw a rectangle around the 'printable area' then group everything inside the original sheet page Double click "Move page" on the basic tools palette Move the group to the relocated page location Ungroup and delete the rectangle Seems quite a lot of faffing about to move forward - especially as VW has caused the bug. The issue with the empty datasets in the title block displaying as "none" is still a big problem.
  20. Robert, I am not sure what you bean by your response. I get the fact that the formulas and coding have changed - that is a relatively simple fix. Does not get round the problem with the "none" data value being displayed when no revision is present in the drawing though. Unless 23.0.1 means service Pack 1?? If this is the case - When is it being released? The throwing of the title block away from the page centre is a major problem as I will be unable to upgrade my office to 2018 with this bug. All of my projects have title blocks which are locked to the page. When I set up a title sheet - I do not choose the location of the title block; VW does it and always has done. If I have to start and redo every drawing sheet (there are thousands) because someone has decided that they don't care about existing users, I do not now how I can continue. This is quite serious for me, I need a solution.
  21. Robert - I am sending you a typical file, which I have attached. It was upgraded directly into 2018 - I have only corrected the bugs that can be fixed (all as highlighted above) including word wrapping which for some reason has gone completely bonkers in 2018. This is highlighting quite a few features with the new title block - which could be really good, if they worked. Also, when I have created title sheets previously - I have always centred them on the page (0,0) Vectorworks has had a habit of changing the origin of a drawing whenever it suits itself (I think this only started to happen in 2017). When title blocks were attached to the border - this is not an issue, but it definitely is now. I am unable to use the title block until this 'bug' is fixed. The title block should work, wherever the title sheet is located. A perfect example is now having the revision No (or issue number) included as part of the overall drawing number, however the system as it currently stands does not allow an unrevised drawing to be issued - unless you want to have the word "none" appended to the end of the drawing number. Where there is no revision or issue - the title block should assume that the field is empty and not have a value included. Type_D_(House)_2018_(Test_file).vwx
  22. The easiest way is to put an over-ride in the worksheet. In your door schedule worksheet switch on the database headers the select your door jamb column. It should be this one "=('Door'.'JambDepth')" then simply add on the thickness of the skim coat. Eg. if it a 3mm skim either side, you would add 6 and the field should then read "=('Door'.'JambDepth')+6". It will then add 6mm to each of the door jamb thicknesses, no matter the thickness of the wall - It will also just appear in the worksheet, as you are just over-riding the worksheet data and not the dataset. PS remember to switch off the database headers when you are finished. Kevin.
  23. Could I also ask for custom test markers to be made available for windows and doors. You could add to the 2D and 3D display options - "Custom text", or even better, add a line to the data tab that will display in 2D or 3D if filled in. An example would be "FEW" - Fire Exit Window, it is common for Building Control to require windows to be annotated with "FEW" on elevations and/or plans / also "FE" - Fire Exit for doors. The list could go on.
  24. Can I also ask that when reviewing any door and window tool that you take account of how doors and windows are placed within walls and that there is more than one way to generate a window / door reveal, which VW is very bad at doing. Also, if this is a Wishlist: When setting out a window or door it should be set out in relation to a specific component of the wall which we should be able to choose. My own preference would be to attach the window or door to the inside face of the outer leaf of the wall, so that whatever the internal wall make-up is, the door or window would be set out correctly and I wouldn't have to keep manually adjusting the offset to make it sit correctly. We should also be able to select a check reveal of a size which can be set in to the OIP You should assume in the first instance that when a multiple component wall is created or selected that the designer actually wants detail a project and the rendering is secondary (I think that you will find that is the case with the majority of users). If someone wants a beautifully rendered project, let them do it with a basic wall - but don't let difficulty in rendering prevent producing competent working details and drawings. Information for statutory consents and actual building is still done in wireframe drawings conveying the information to the contractor etc. There is no point producing beautifully rendered images and drawings if competent working drawings cannot be produced. IMHO, the only way to sort this is to think out of the box in relation to how we create models and present information. Allow the user to create a custom profile which can be simply attached to the door or window object and is in effect a 2D symbol with whatever customisation the user wants, creating in effect a hybrid door or window. This should also be able to be created in plan and section form so that we can add custom cills / lintels / thresholds etc. without having to navigate the current system that is not suitable for purpose. The holy grail and the best modelling solution is to be able to fully model each component and for VW will assemble correctly (or as instructed by the user), but as we have found time and time again, if the VW engineers are not given the correct detailed information at the time of creating a module, they will create to the best of their abilities at the time - or at worst, just make assumptions and once the module is created it will be working as 'designed' and very little can be done as it confirms to the parameters that were given at the time of production (no matter whether they were right or wrong). What is being proposed would create a simple functionality within the door and window objects that would allow users to attach the correct detailing parameters to each object. In relating this to BIM levels 0, 1, 2 & 3 - which is something that VW seems to champion at every opportunity BIM Level 0 - 2D Drafting with collaboration by paper or electronic means. The majority of the industry is well ahead of this. BIM Level 1 - Typically a mixture of 3D CAD for concept work, and 2D for drafting of statutory approval documentation and Production Information with an element of CDE, usually managed by the main contractor. The is probably the stage at which the majority of the industry is at just now. BIM Level 2 - This is distinguished by collaborative working – all parties use their own 3D CAD models, but not necessarily working on a single, shared model and all design information to be shared through a CDF - the only CDF for 3D models currently available is ifc or COBie. Note that detailing is not a requirement of BIM Level 2, although detailing must link to the building model - this can be done by simple referencing. The is where governments have said we should be at right now and where only very few VW users are, because of the apparent misunderstanding and difficulties that VW ( and all the other 'minor' design software providers) has because other suppliers are again championing their workflow and selling it as the only solution and from what I have seen, is no better than VW, but what they do, is listen to their users and admit when something doesn't work - throw it away and start again. They have is the ability to join up their components (roofs/walls & floors etc.). If VW is to try to remain a player in the BIM market, VW must look at its overall workflow and realise that there is no point having all this connectivity and fantastic modelling and rendering functionality if it struggles to get basic technical functions. BIM Level 3 - Currently seen as the holy grail, this represents full collaboration between all disciplines by means of using a single, shared project model which is held in a centralized repository. All parties can access and modify that same model, and the benefit is that it removes the final layer of risk for conflicting information. Again, detailing is not specifically mentioned, although it would not be too much to expect that each discipline would still be creating details (2D and 3D) within their own systems and have the project model make reference to them, as the ifc file format has a long way to go before it will be capable of supporting 3D models at that level of detail. It is also extremely unlikely that the 'Open BIM' model will be required to have the detail hard coded into it, but to have it referenced. VW has the capability to be a main player in this, but it must get its house in order. Things like automatic mapping to ifc are going to be critical / importing and exporting revit files - with full functionality (the import function loses all object data except the graphics) and the manufacturing and supply chain have already decided that rvt files are the file format of choice for objects (irrespective of BIMstore as the vwx and ifc object are almost non-existent). Taking this to the next level, detail hybrids could be attached to many of the standard junctions which VW struggles with and although the principles would be set out (as they currently are), when producing sections etc. the correct detail would always be displayed. The next stage would then to the details to be create the details as 2D/ 3D hybrids and attached as part of the overall structure. This could get round a lot of issues that users are currently wasting a lot of time trying to overcome.
  25. Can we please have the facility to access the current drawing revision and display it in a title box at the same time as the Revision Block please. What I mean is that when using the Revision Block (and the Issue Manager), you fill in the current revision etc. that is displayed, but you have to manually include a revision edit to the title box. This should be automatic, but for some reason if you use the ":rNo" tag in your custom title box, it can only appear once - In the revision block, but not in the title block as well??? Also can we have some control over the format of the revision box. Ability to change the Headers from Date / Approval / Zone to something of our choosing - Like E.g. Date / By / Approved / Checked / etc. and choose whether to display or not
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