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ok, fair enough. thanks, vincent. rob

hi, i've just created a chimney with two channels from rectangulars, extrudes and finally the solid subtracts. the whole thing is on the first floor (i.e. ground floor), it's visible in the section vp, but it doesn't appear in the second floor (it's the next storey). the chimney is some 8.5m high, but the only appearance is in its base floor. i don't see any setting to have it appear on other floors (storeys). how can i make it visible where it is actually present? thx, rob

great tips, joe. they seem elegant and pretty simple. i'll give them a try. especially the horizontal section, i've expected something like this, let's see how it works. thanks rob

thanks, dworks. jeeez, what a workaround. i thought about class visibility, but the roof splitting is more than i can comprehend. is there really no simpler solution? rob

tamsin, you've made my day thanx a lot, that did the trick. rob

hi, it's my first small residential project with a vw 2012, until now i've done only a few flat roof housing estates (and not in vw 2012). i'm currently having troubles getting the right visibilities for a floor plan in the second storey. the bearing height is ca 100 cm, and after the roof is created (as the part of the same storey), the walls get obscured by the roof faces. as i try to set the roof in the next (3rd) storey, i can't nudge it down, and besides, i won't be able to fit the walls geometry from the 2nd storey to the 3rd storey roof, as i've heard. how can i get it done? is there any horizontal section height setting? thanks in advance. rob

i can't get it work. i've set _any_ selection left/right/overall in any dialog (classes/walls/wall style settings) to stucco, but to no avail. the walls are not getting rendered as a mass, they are still transparent in opengl, hidden line or renderworks preview. what am i still missing? thanx in advance. rob

bim is for me a model as a database of parametrized 3d objects, modelled in a cad software and ready to be used as schedules or full-fledged building site plans, exchangeable through compatible files, no matter in what scale or detailing accuracy. rob

archicad details are 2d (with annoying fillings and single lines, many times multiplied where elements join), but you have always the possibility to rebuild from the model. there you but lose all additional revisions you did in 2d to the detail. i find it fair, anyway. i (still) can't imagine any 3d detailing work - the execution drawings must be sent to the construction site. and i could get by with such a method for vw details. rob

presumably 2d. i don't expect the true bim from vw sections, unless somebody proves me wrong. as the thread starter, i simply look for the most convenient ways to edit sections, too. rob

but at least editable, right? rob

for me neither 'cut 2d section' nor 'cut 3d section' (from the fundamentals workspace) displays any editable 2d section representation, obviously it exceeds my comprehension capabilities. i suppose it may lie in the working plane setting, as i get only a portion of the floor plan (3d cut) or a blank design layer (2d cut) the model is pretty complicated (5 storeys above and 2 below ground) and i try to cut from the top/plan view of the top floor. the fundamentals guide (pages 811 & 812 for the v 2012) doesn't help me either... rob

yeah, the manipulation of the insertion point does the trick. thanks. rob

thank you very much. i'll check if i can follow the information. rob

i should admittedly sacrifice more hours to learn nuances of vw, but let me ask a dumb question: where is this built in window object? i try to desperately figure out how such 2d window representation as on above drawing can be done... rob

thank you, michael. where is the bug submission entry? anywhere on the forum or via mail to support? rob

i try to edit the wall's components. the fixed dialog box size on a 13" macbook won't let me to the buttons at the bottom of it. i suppose there are 'ok', 'apply' or 'cancel' ones (i don't have the other computer here). in other words: any wall style dialog box action can't be finalized. i can't scale nor resize the dialog box to reach the buttons. rob

hi, the execution buttons in the wall style dialog, which doesn't scale, can't be accessed on my 13" macbook pro. i enclose a whole screen shot. is there any workaround? thanks. rob

maybe the people at nemetschek are not fond of users, who switch to other applications? rob

Why should we care? We don't produce a model!! yes, you do. generally the bim model (no matter what bim size) is being generated and created by the architects. and the copyrights is a known issue. and what's the difference? beside the consultants and 3rd party contribution to the 3d information stored in the model? rob

That doesn't answer my question. It's like you're telling us we should care about what blueprint machine to buy when we don't even produce negatives to print from. yes, it's an important issue: who should manage information stored in a model? less important is who and in what form is retrieving it. rob

you miss one small thing: 'delivering' is something different from 'getting'. you have to deliver ALL information. the other party is getting only information they need. i don't see any better tool to achieve it as ifc. but hold on: the corporate bim server is way better. but it's a static 3d model. any movement with it requires an ifc. rob 'Delivering' is the same as transporting your model, so IFC is the transportation method and not the BIM (Buidling Information Model) itself. Who gets the elevation out of the BIM and with what program doesn't matter here. Also a bim server is just a way to store the BIM in a central place, it's not the BIM itself in some way. well, it's kinda splitting hairs to get the information required for the bim way you have to put it into a 3d model. the ifc is a way to secure the information required for bim during transportation. rob

you miss one small thing: 'delivering' is something different from 'getting'. you have to deliver ALL information. the other party is getting only information they need. i don't see any better tool to achieve it as ifc. but hold on: the corporate bim server is way better. but it's a static 3d model. any movement with it requires an ifc. rob

i'll tell you why. the architect's duty is to provide full (i repeat: full) building information, preferably with the 3d model, because it's able to store every bit of information possible. that's the information pool to share with all the other involved parties. anything you deliver as a 2d is a voluntary choice of yours. you do not have the idea what the other party really requires. i'm in this business for exactly 30 years now, and i've seen them all (ok, almost all ). some require, say, the distance measure from the middle of the road, some from the field surveyor posts, and some from the nearby apple-tree (pun intended ). we've delivered a window schedule to our investor. they wanted more information about handles, about their colour, about the corner post. everything is in the model, but just these parameters are missing in the schedule, because we didn't consider them important for the bid. but they want it this way. we are losing valuable time correcting the schedules. would we enhance the model on the bim server, every party could retrieve the information they exactly need, and not depending on other party's imagination. rob

no, it's not. it's only flattening the information. the real bim is using the 3d parametrized model in contacts with the building authorities and with the general contractor on the building site. rob