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  1. i can get the manufacturers' intention to model once, not many times (and as it remains contrary to the designers' intention, based on lod stages) but i can't get the insertion point schedule for those workouts. from what i understand the manufacturers' contribution happens in the final phase of the design / ipd process. generally there is no need of that exact modelling, as it was the case of 2d references. what i am interested most is the possibility to reproduce the modelling principles of revit families in vectorworks. is there a possibility to export parametric (symbols?) for the construction industry market? or go you think we can get away with the ifc standard alone? rob
  2. i use my wacom intuos3 (4x5 inches, small, but sufficient for any project size) for several years already. for the input i use wacom 5-button wireless mouse. the combination works like a charm. rob
  3. but if oip could be that flexible to gather all necessary information chunks and still be able to forward them to the ifc, i'd really welcome it...
  4. ida, i've considered available options and i see for instance that there's no other way 'round as to edit the ifc psets for custom objects. actually i don't see the possibility to activate the oip parameters for objects modelled in 3d tools, and not having the standard features. we still have the record sets as the third data source and i start to believe i can really follow the trouble of the application developers when it comes to data modelling. we probably need (and will need) all three data inputs. but i'd gladly take potluck with nv. unfortunately the architects will have to pay for it with lots of hours of the additional learning. i have a few years as a software engineer behind me, so i can't be that objective, other architects will surely have their challenge with it. and yes, i've seen the parallel thread. i am sure we can get such tool in the next releases. rob
  5. one more thing: in revit there is something called an 'ifc mapping file'. it consists of simple text strings with 3 entries for each row: ifc_common_propertyset_nameifc_property_namerevit_property_name i don't really know revit and its ifc import/export functionality (and it should be years back, facing the deprecation of this format for years by autodesk), but this principle looks pretty logical. i don't want to suggest anything, but there must be an easy way like this to proceed, doesn't it? i know the (newly created) record sets should have doubled inserts for the vw properties and for ifc ones, but it doesn't seem to work easy enough... rob
  6. ida, thanks for your feedback. the trouble is, that in order to speed up the implementation of bim in our country (and to make vectorworks a viable solution) we have to keep things simple. architects are spoiled by the autocad-2d-mentality, and i don't think they will try 3 different places to insert the important data. unfortunately the most common understanding is the parameters' dialog of each element as a starting point for nd data modelling. it's really hard to force the artists (the architects regard themselves as such) to learn the rules of object-oriented programming (ifc hierarchies and their psets). and the data records are adding to the confusion. so you're right, ida: jeff, this chaos must be cleared in the most simple and understandable way. rob
  7. ok, i'm just reading the 'IFC Handbook-templated' and there is a hint to the missing automatic assignment for the door object. the suggestion is to: 'assign the appropriate Pset and fill in the fields.' so this brings me to the question: which pset is an appropriate one for the door object to be ifc-exported properly? a collateral question would be like this: what do i have the door settings for, when they don't get exported? thx, rob
  8. jeff: either i don't see the connections, or are those data sources not correlated with one another. we have, say, a door object with its user dataset in the settings dialog (door_data.png attachment) we have the record sets for this door, i choose 'material take-off' one, although (btw) i expect the data preparation for exchanges functionality to be implemented for me in the first place (door_material_take-off_record.png attachment) we have ifc property sets that don't mirror anything set up in the user settings for this door object (door_one_ifc_pset.png, door_another_one_ifc_pset.png attachments). the measurements of the door are both 0.000, the glazing thickness 0.000, no fire rating, no nothing from the user defined values from the settings' dialog. now please tell me anybody, how am i supposed to get, say, the door fire rating (happen to be 'ei30' in the settings) to be visible in the ifc model of the building? how can the user data fields be automatically exported to the model? do i have to choose any other psets or even create new ones? who is supposed to know these exact procedures in any standard architectural office? thanks in advance for any clue. rob
  9. this is yokohama port terminal by foreign office architects (i happen to have taken part in the competition, too, some 20 yrs ago): https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M77watdQggk/TX4dBMPB9vI/AAAAAAAAACE/M8l7amdvMWs/s1600/32-Rendered+sections.JPG is there a way to draw or/and model it in vw? rob
  10. recently i've checked a few threads and yt videos about the slanted walls. facing the (great) novedge webinar #126 on the malta seashore project i still can't get why there is no slanted wall tool in vw. we can practically model what we imagine, but the hard reality is the 'space planning>model to floorplan' winding up as vertical remnants of any bold shape. i know about two ways of doing the thing (one being a 'slanted wall' tool - not vw case, the other one being a free-form 3d modelling and then assigning the wall values - not exactly true, as the full wall functionality is never achieved). when will we get a fully functioning 'model shell to wall' tool? or am i asking too much? rob
  11. hi, an additional question: how to retrieve an object data and populate the ifc psets with it? the assigning of the record format (say, take-off data record) doesn't have any influence on psets' values, the same (zero) effect is the choice of this record in the 'manage custom property sets' in the ifc data dialog. this assignment disappears after the ifc data dialog is closed. does anybody have a viable procedure how to use the ifc functionality in exporting the full object data for interoperability? i understand there are ifc entities with predefined, noneditable values, but how to use those values, and any user-added object ones, for data exchange? when i send an ifc model, there is no further way to communicate the data as via the ifc psets themselves, or am i missing something? thx, rob
  12. thanks guys for useful tips, a really great forum i think the way is to improve the schedules' imaging, all manual actions are counterproductive. christiaan, are the bottom parts of w04 and w09 not fixed? rob
  13. apparently the direction of the software applications for creative professionals includes the visual diagram modelling (the uml-principle) before the real modelling takes place. i encounter this for years already in the animation software (toon boom harmony and animate). in the beginning i was wondering if it wouldn't reduce the artistic input, but i was getting accustomed and pretty comfortable with it (it's called 'network view' in the toon boom software). i learn pretty easily, though. i can imagine there are many architects around who will have troubles with this (technological) approach, claiming the affected freedom of artistic expression. we'll see... rob
  14. @jim great work, guys really impressive. i second benson's questions. and: what is the best practice to create walls from the referenced point cloud? rob
  15. i actually export with 'viewports as 2d graphics in the model space' checked, i'd suggest to try to use this one. additionally, i remove all hatches and fills. ifc is a fully separate export, there is hardly a comparison, unless you really need dwg with 3d functionality (i dunno if it's possible with vw, though). rob
  16. hi, is it somehow possible to use certain manufacturer's profiles for the curtain wall frames? if not, how is it possible to reference the particular products for bim takeoffs, concerning the curtain walls? thx, rob
  17. @dieter have you modelled the waterproofing on the terrace, too? or is it an annotation? rob
  18. ilay, if the ifc file is really buggy, the information from the vw log won't help you. try first to examine the source. which ifc viewers have you used and what did they say exactly? rob
  19. as for the v2015 sp3 release: - the spaces assignment happens for the exterior outlines of the building parts, the existing spaces get no more duplicated. as i have for each storey a few significant design layers (slab, spaces, walls and 3d_parts for elements i don't want to be visible on the 2d floor plans), the new (exterior) spaces get created on the slab layers. to be frank i don't understand it, but there must be a method. some minor space creations happen on the roof for the mechanical ventilation chimneys' exterior outlines, but it's no comparison with the chaos of previous releases. - the gbxml export renders ok, no crash, the file size 4.2 mb, exported from the 208 mb project file. to compare: the ifc export is some 84 mb. - the (same) gbxml file imported into openstudio (v 1.5.3.) winds up in an error (the error report included). all in all, the gbxml export procedure is more smooth, but fails nevertheless at the gate of another bim evaluation software. more to come... rob
  20. the foundation story offset bug from my previous posts has been fixed in the sp3 (probably the vb-121344). good job, guys, thanks a lot rob
  21. could be interesting. file export formats are compatible with unity, now it'd be the task to convince owners to put the headsets on
  22. hi, is there a possibility, as for instance in archicad, to have classes and layers visibility preset? actually i'd need a set of classes and layers to export only the structural elements to the ifc file, and then easily to return to the architectural export preset, without manually selecting the appropriate classes and layers. thx, rob
  23. well, i got it, thank to sean. it's the simple succession of clicks: rob
  24. kevin, thanks for the input. well, i've tried it in a new file. the preferences are set to 'screen plane or working plane'. i've just searched the forum and i've found the setting for fixing the automatic plane in case of planar objects (toggle backslash), so the blue highlights are back and i can draw on a random plane, but i can't get push-pull working for real cut-outs (the tool is in the 1st or in the 3rd mode, no difference). all i get is the additional solid i'd have to subtract from the main shape. i must be doing something wrong, but i don't know what. rob
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