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jrhartley

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  1. re: changing the graphics card - hilarious idea! i think i'll just change cad packages. I've struggled for too long with vw - always being told it never crashes - must be my computer. Well, my mac, my imac, 10 macs in the first office i worked in, 15 offices in the second office i worked in and all the macs of my mates at uni must be dodgy as they all crash running vw2008+. i think there's a point whereby you have to logically conclude that the hardware isn't the issue here. time to break out the bootcamp and start playing with some of the win packages I think, there's only so many bugs anyone should expect to put up with.
  2. Hello Anyone else experiencing another enchanting 'little quirk' of VW2008 whereby, after you use it for a while (and invariably it crashes numerous times) it decides to reset your preferences - you know, things like NOT scaling the whole drawing, your snap constraint options. Seems very bizarre - and quite potentially disastrous (I don't tend to read every dialogue box in detail every time - I assume that if I've set it, the software won't just go and change it back to something different of its own accord). Running VW2008 on SL (because 2009 and 2010 are too slow on my 512MB graphics card on my i7 imac). Am thinking this summer is going to be the time to look into other CAD solutions once I've got time to learn a different platform.
  3. Hi I'm struggling to work out how to move the line of a window on plan when inserted in a wall. I've tried searching and also messing arouund with a few of the window settings, but the window (rectangular) remains resolutely in the middle of the wall thickness. Could someone tell me how I can get my windows either flush with the exterior wall or interior wall on plan, please I'm using VW2008 as 2009 and 2010 regen too on my imac. Thanks in advance.
  4. Yep, as well as v. slow refreshes on the screen on VW2010, I've just installed this and tried it out (imac 27" i7, 512mb graphics ram) and I've noticed the same thing. I had problems with the zoom refresh on VW2009 on my MBP and now this on a powerful quad core imac for VW2010. Why are 2009 and 2010 so much worse for laggy zooming than 2008? I cannot believe how laggy the zoom is on 2010 on a machine as powerful as an i7 with a decent graphics card. What is it with this awful second delay for the image to 'ping' back into focus? Why would I want that? If this is progress, count me out. But no doubt I'm just unlucky?
  5. yeah, i have the same issue for VW2009 on my MBP, in fact, if you search the forum you will see I started a thread on it a while back. Lots of potential solutions were offered up, but none really did it, hence sticking with VW2008 as I can't be hanging around for 3 seconds for a screen refresh with every pan or zoom.
  6. Its a two year old 2.4 Mhz 4gb RAM, 256MB graphics card, and yes, I run disk utilities, yes, I run crone tasks, run Onyx, etc. That's normal. Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro3,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache (per processor): 4 MB Memory: 4 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz Boot ROM Version: MBP31.0070.B07 SMC Version: 1.18f2 GeForce 8600M GT: Chipset Model: GeForce 8600M GT Type: Display Bus: PCIe PCIe Lane Width: x16 VRAM (Total): 256 MB Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de) Device ID: 0x0407 Revision ID: 0x00a1 ROM Revision: 3175 Displays: Color LCD: Display Type: LCD Resolution: 1680 x 1050 Depth: 32-bit Color Built-In: Yes Core Image: Hardware Accelerated Main Display: Yes Mirror: Off Online: Yes Quartz Extreme: Supported Display Connector: Status: No display connected Funny how its just Vectorworks 2009 that has this problem, and funny how a number of other MBP users are having this problem. As I said, I've spoken to VW NA, they've done the usual suggestions of trackpad and pre-selection, but its still slow as hell. I'm guessing you need at least a 512MB graphics card to run 2009 without the regen / redraw lag, which is a joke for doing 2D CAD. 2008 doesn't do this. Wonder what they changed to make it so clunky?
  7. yes, have contacted tech support numerous times about the slow issue of redraw on my macbook pro (tiger, 4gb RAM, 256mb graphics, 2.33). the suggestions have been reinstall, clear preferences, the trackpad fix error (even though I'm using a mouse anyway). Nothing has fixed it. I'm only on SP2 because that's all that is available for the E version, but this IS clearly an issue for MBP users, and it should be addressed in future releases. In the meantime, I guess its back to 2008 for us affected by these slow screen redraws.
  8. I'd like to be able to tell you if moving from SP1 to SP2 fixed this problem, but unfortunately I can't, as whenever I try to update my EDU version from SP1, it asks me to reauthorise the software and I can't get into it. apparently SP3 isn't available for the EDU version of 2009. I have called Vectorworks North America and also dealt with the distributor here in the UK. Both have told me there are no license problems and that this shouldn't be happening. Obviously it shouldn't be happening, but it is. I have been advised to delete and reinstall from the DVD, which I have done, and then try again to update to SP2. Precisely the same problem - software won't authorise after the service patch update. Time to give up on VW2009 and move to another CAD package, I reckon. there are only so many hours in the day to try to get a bit of software working before its time to move on.
  9. I've got 40GB left on my MBP hard drive of the 120GB. I'd hope that was enough.
  10. re: disk utilities - yes, also onyx, forced the crone tasks. i think its just overly resource hungry. i will maybe have a go at reinstalling some day when a few sps have been released, but for the moment i can't afford the speed penalty of 2009.
  11. sorry, should have said in my OP, that is using a mouse, not the trackpad - still 1-2 seconds for the redraw on pans or zooms. no way near acceptable. i couldn't draw using the trackpad on my mbp - amazed anyone can draft with a trackpad.
  12. Guess no one else is getting this problem then. I sure am unlucky on the old Vectorworks front. Needless to say, I will not be continuing with VW2009. That was a waste of time. It would be good if Nemetschek worked to the principle that new releases, working in 2D, should be at least as fast as the previous version. If they want to add in loads of bells and whistles as optional installs, fine, great, but it should lead to the underlying OS being crippled. Funny, one of my friends working at the one of UK's biggest pratises was talking to his IT manager the other day, and the IT / software purchasing manager said one of the main reasons they use Autocad and Microstation and NOT VW is that they can't afford to upgrade hundreds and hundreds of PCs every new VW release just to ensure it keeps working.
  13. Hello Just received my copy of VW 2009, installed it, updated it, opened a VW2008 drawing... I'm concerned by how slow the redraw is when zooming in and out - it seems to take far longer to 'ping' to a clean image than earlier versions - maybe a second or so to go from pixelated to a proper image. I'm running a MBP 2.4 with 4GB RAM and a 256MB Graphics card (GeForce 8600M GT). I've tried running that script for MBPs, turning off Quartz, anti-aliasing etc. Line thicknesses are not on, etc. Is there any way to get VW2009 to redraw any quicker - I've run VW2008 on the same machine and it was nowhere near as slow to redraw when zooming as 2009 is. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
  14. Hi Charlie Thanks for your comprehensive replies. Yep, doing all that aleady, crone tasks, Onyx, running VW2008 on its own (no other appz running at the same time), Apple+S almost on a minute by minute basis, making backups, shut down most evenings, 4GB RAM max in most macs in the office, 8GB on a few, plenty of HDD and server space, fonts sorted across the LAN. As I said, funny how it happens on my MBP (4GB RAM), funny how it happened at two other firms as well as my current firm (different training, different LAN setup), funny how no other appz do this. Guess I, and all my colleagues at previous firms, and all my friends at different firms are just terribly unlucky when it comes to VW. That's all I can put it down to, as some people here seem adamant that it couldn't possibly be down to the way VW is coded. My feeling - VW is probably OK for fairly simple drafting of 2D projects. The minute you get into referencing, large projects with numerous design files / viewports, it struggles a lot more than other CAD packages.
  15. I have found crashing on a number of things, sometimes just random, but the classic culprits are updating references, joining walls, importing dwgs. Those are the 'tried and tested' ones. As you say, you spend half your time doing Apple+S, but my point is, no other application I run on my mac (be it adobe, sketchup, c4d, or anything non graphics related) crashes anywhere near as much as VW. Maybe once a month with other appz if you're unlucky, whereas with VW, one crash a day would be considered lucky in all firms I've worked in. I don't know, it just doesn't seem right to me. I make a point of always submitting my crash logs to Apple (!) - they must have a log running to thousands of lines about the constant VW crashes. Its a shame, as when it works it is a very pleasant bit of software. I would very much hesitate in recommending it to anyone to buy though, on account of this instability I have seen on the mac platform.
  16. No, it has been in different firms who have learned VW from different people, and also the same experience from my colleagues working at different firms using VW - i.e. across the board on macs, people trained in different firms, working on different systems. Using OS X Tiger previously and Leopard now, and, yes, in the majority of cases this is on a LAN setup.
  17. Hello Just wondering if there's any way of being updated as to when Nemetshek will release a stable version of Vectorworks for mac? Because 2008 certainly isn't - I have used it on various different mac builds at various architectural practises, and its is without compare the single most buggy application available for mac that I have used - talk about two or three bug reports / crashes per day when using it. Nothing else takes out the machine with the frequency or consistency that Vectorworks 2008 does. And no - it is not just me - everyone in all of the firms I have worked with (normally 10-20 architects / technicians) has exactly the same opinion and the general cry is 'f&&king Vectorworks crashy crash crash crash!!!'. Have done all the SP updates up to SP3, there are no errors on the disk - so why the persistent instability from this software? Is 2009 any more stable? Any way of signing up for an email notification as to when this program will actually be finished, as the amount of bugs I have experienced in it and crashes since I started using it 18 odd months ago would really land it in the late 'beta' camp, not a finished piece of software. Shouldn't Nemetshek be updating licenses to 2009 for free given how buggy 2008?
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