jrhartley

Hi Jim, I emailed the details to CU directly and they suggested typing in vs. copying and pasting. When I did this, it accepted it. Very odd. Every other installation I have made for VW I have copied & pasted the serial in no problem, but this machine obviously wasn't accepting it. Given the installer issue problems first of all, and now this makes me think there must be something awry with this Mavericks installation - I think it might be worth doing a full reinstall on it at some stage. Thanks again for your time and your help and for the workaround you suggested.

Jim Firstly, thanks for your help. Unforunately, there is no installer log. It never gets as far as creating a Vectorworks 2015 folder in the applications folder. However, your suggestion about copying the whole folder from another Mountain Lion machine into the Applications folder on the Mavericks machine seems like it could bear fruit. However, when I go to input the serial number for this VW seat, the application refuses to accept it is valid (despite it being faithfully copied and pasted from the VSS page and checked for no additional spaces). Which leads me to think that there is a problem with the serial number on Nemetshek's system which has been just causing the installer to quit - it thinks the serial number is invalid. I will be a bit frustrated if the root cause is a problem with the serial number at Nemetshek's end, as this has wasted quite a few hours of my working day.

JimW Thanks. I have done. Computers Unlimited don't know why this is happening and that's why I thought I'd post here as well, in the interests of drawing upon collective experience.

We have just downloaded VW2015 and it is installing fine on our Mountain Lion machines. On trying to install on a Mavericks machine, I get to the point where I enter the registration details, serial number, etc. Press to continue, the installer just quits out. I have tried creating a completely new user account - same problem. The machine is an iMac, six months old - 21.5" late 2013 iMac running 10.9.4 2.9Ghz Core i5 16GB RAM NVIDIA GEForce GT750M Would be grateful if anyone has any suggestions on how we could get VW2015 to install on this machine, even if its a workaround from the regular installation.

yep. Blogged about it, film clips of the behaviour are on my twitter (@rktecture). The mods on here have told me to shut up about it - clearly they don't like people discussing it. I have spoken to support in the UK, but nothing can be done. the only thing that's been talked about is that it should be sorted out in VW2012, so when we upgrade, all will be well.... Right. Like we're going to upgrade after the debacle that is VW2011! I better not post any more at the risk of being ticked off, just wanted to let you know that its a widespread issue (everyone in our office experiences it, particularly in rotated plan view).

really? seems like a pretty crude scheme to me - how to maximise your circulation distances and external envelope, whilst simultaneously annexing as much land in the middle (because you can). add to that the facade treatment which appears identical for the diameter of the building (demonstrating how little thought has been applied to site specific environmental considerations), I'd tend to disagree that this is a cool scheme. To my mind, it looks like a two second sketch which has been (badly) rendered up.

Unfortunately our experiences echo the negative experiences set out here. We have spent our office IT budget upgrading to VW2011 and we are now collectively regretting it. I have now managed to get SP3 installed on my machine after some advice from NNA tech support, but the improvement on the refresh speed is marginal. Consequently we have taken the decision not to start any new projects in VW2011 now and to revert to VW2008. Some architects in the office are even contemplating back-saving all their VW2011 projects to VW2008. I'm looking forward to giving Archicad 15 a try-out on the mac if I can get hold of a trial version.

Trust me. When its taking a qualified architect 30 seconds + to wait for a regen on a set of viewports, this really isn't the optimal use of our time. If you want to come and see how slow VW2011 regens on our office imacs, you're more than welcome to come around any time. And I'm sure that BIM's great if you're doing big blocks with lots of repeated components and details. But a lot of practise aren't doing this.

Its funny how many people try to gloss over the scroll wheel zoom issue by saying "use CC or VV" keypresses instead. Funny enough, when they demo-d this in my office (before I joined) - they did exactly that stunt so people didn't see the issues with scroll wheel zooming. I'm sorry, but CC / VV isn't as good - as it doesn't zoom precisely where you want to go. Also, I don't appreciate that my software dictates to me my workflow, particularly when VW2008 had no issues with scroll wheel zooming. I guess this is what they call 'progress'?

Bob Sorry - my tag is out of date. Running latest snow leopard on all my machines, office is running Leopard. All the above is true for drawings that have been started in VW2011 as well, incidentally, according to my colleagues who have done this. I'm not starting any projects in VW2011 myself, and I'm not going to migrate any of my VW2008 projects to VW2011. Matt Thanks - I will try to find her. CU (computers unlimited) are a couple of syllables away from living up to their name. I have spoken with someone else who deals with Nemetshek and he pretty much confirmed to me that they have let 2D drafting capability slip by the wayside in their fervour to try to catch up on the BIM front.

Bob You're correct that we have moved from VW2008 to VW2011, but we actually don't do 3D in CAD, we do it in SketchUp. We only want 2D capability from our CAD software being a small practise doing bespoke houses. VW2008 allowed us to do that - VW2011 falls painfully short and is a serious downgrade to productivity like Guy has stated. Nemetshek are pathetic in actually doing anything about this - they just refer me to Computers Unlimited for support. Computers Unlimited support in the UK is one man. He is currently on holiday for three weeks and I have two outstanding calls in to him from a fortnight ago.

Yep - change CAD software. Nemetshek killed Vectorworks with VW2011. Unless you've got so much time you can with 10-30 seconds for viewports to regen, you need to look elsewhere. Time for Autocad Mac or ArchiCad 15 when its released, I think. you can see some clips of the speed of regen we are experiencing in our office here: twitter.com/rktecture

has been disappointing to say the least. http://twitter.com/#!/@rktecture "If it looks like a beta, behaves like a beta, then it probably still is a beta" would be my summing up. Videos were from a: iMac 11,2 (Oct-2010) Intel Core i3 3.2 GHz 8 GB ATI Radeon HD 5670

Have sent that off. I will look forward to tech support not coming back to me, as per usual. Interesting, tech support in the UK (one man at Computers Unlimited) is off on holiday for three weeks. I put in a call to them over a week ago, and was told in his absence someone else would call me back. Needless to say they haven't. What a way to run a business. If there was more liquidity I would defo be short Nemetshek.

Anyone else experiencing the disappearing lines on rotated plan view when you zoom in? Because all our office are. I have actually decided that from going from a position of loathing Nemetshek for putting out such a piece of rubbish as VW2011 for mac, I admire their brazeness. Its like a royal two fingers at their customers, a screw you of monumental proportions which so few companies seem to engage in these days.