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    Connecting grandMA3 to Vision 2021

    Overview

    Vision 2021 SP2.1 and later versions can connect to any type of grandMA3 lighting control system, including grandMA3 consoles and onPC computers. The version of grandMA3 software must be 1.4 or later.

     

    Vision uses MA viz-key technology to connect to the grandMA3 and join an MA-Net3 session. Learn more about the viz-key at www.malighting.com/viz-key

     

    Once you have installed the viz-key driver:

    • If the viz-key is not attached, Vision can join an MA-Net3 session and use all granted parameters for visualization.
    • If the viz-key is attached, Vision can use all non-granted parameters too.

    Install and Update the Viz-Key Driver

    Before Vision can join an MA-Net3 session, you need to install the viz-key driver and update Vision to communicate with the grandMA3 software version that you have installed. You only need to do this once per Vision computer, for each version of the grandMA3 software you want to use for visualization. In other words, you will follow these steps to: (1) install the viz-key driver and (2) update Vision to work with a new version of the grandMA3 software that you have installed.

     

    Once you have established (or updated) a connection to the grandMA3 software, you can simply select that software version when setting the DMX provider in Vision. See Connect to Specific Versions of the grandMA3 Software.

     

    To install the viz-key driver or update the grandMA3 software connection:

    1. Download the grandMA3 viz-key package from https://www.malighting.com/downloads/.

    2. Download the grandMA3 software you need from https://www.malighting.com/downloads/.

    3. Install the grandMA3 software either on your grandMA3 console or onPC computer.

    4. Unzip the grandMA3_viz_key_vX.X.X.X.zip archive.

      • When using a USB flash drive: Copy the ma folder into the root directory of your flash drive.
      • On Windows without a USB flash drive: Copy the content of the ma folder to this folder: C:\ProgramData\MALightingTechnology\installation_packages.
      • On Mac without a USB flash drive: Copy the content of the ma folder to this folder: ~/MALightingTechnology/gma3_software_update.
    5. Launch Vision.

      Note: Make sure the viz-key is not attached to Vision during the installation process.

    6. Run the menu command DMX > Change DMX Provider.

    7. In the Select DMX Provider dialog box, select MA-Net3 from the list, and click OK.

    8. In the Select MA3 Software Version dialog box, select Updater from the list, and click OK. The following dialog displays:

     

    VisionUpdateProvider.png

     

    1. Launch the grandMA3 console or onPC software.

    2. Click the gear icon to open the settings (1). In the Menu dialog box, click Settings (2), and select Software Update (3).

     

    MAUpdate1.png

     

    1. The Software Update window opens. Click Choose update file (1). At the top right of the SelectUpdate dialog box, select the location of the update file (either Internal or the USB flash drive) (2). Select the update file for the vizkey: release_viz_key_vX.X.X.X.xml (3), and click Select (4).

     

    MAUpdate2.png

     

    1. Select the Vision row in the table (1). The Status changes to UpdateMode. Click Update devices (2).

     

    MAUpdate3.png

     

    1. The grandMA3 sends the needed files to Vision. When the process is complete, Vision displays the following dialog box while waiting to connect with MA-Net3.

     

    VisionConnect.png

     

    Note: You can cancel this operation by pressing the Esc key in Vision.

     

    1. In the grandMA3 console or onPC software, click the gear icon to open the Settings (1). In the Menu dialog box, click Network (2).

     

    MAOpenNetwork.png

     

    1. The Network window opens. Select the Vision row in the table (1), and click Invite Station (2).

     

    MANetwork.png

     

    1. When the connection is successful, the row turns green, and the Status changes to Connected. The Connecting dialog box closes in Vision, and you can receive DMX! 🎉

     

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    1. If grandMA3 onPC and Vision are running on the same computer, you need to restart both programs in a specific order. See Start-Up order with the Viz-key.

    Start-Up Order with the Viz-Key

    If you are using grandMA3 onPC version 1.4, and you are running onPC and Vision on the same computer, only one of these programs can use the viz-key at a time.

    The start-up order is very important. Whichever program launches first will use the viz-key, and this determines how many universes Vision receives from the grandMA3.

    • When grandMA3 onPC uses the viz-key, Vision can only receive one universe from the grandMA3.
    • When Vision uses the viz-key, Vision can receive all universes from the grandMA3.

     

    To ensure that Vision uses the viz-key:

    1. Launch Vision.
    2. Run the menu command DMX > Change DMX Provider.
    3. In the Select DMX Provider dialog box, select MA-Net3 from the list, and click OK.
    4. In the Select MA3 Software Version dialog box, select the version of grandMA3 software to use for visualization.
    5. Once the Connecting dialog box displays, launch grandMA3 onPC.

    Connect to Specific Versions of the grandMA3 Software

    After you have installed the viz-key and updated Vision to communicate with a specific version of the grandMA3 software, Vision can join an MA-Net3 session. Vision and the grandMA3 must use the same version of grandMA3 software to visualize the show.

     

    Note: If you are using grandMA3 onPC and Vision on the same computer, make sure that onPC is not running when you launch Vision. Follow the startup order described in Start-up Order with the Viz-Key.

     

    To select the grandMA3 software version to use with Vision:

    1. In Vision, run the menu command DMX > Change DMX Provider.

    2. In the Select DMX Provider dialog box, select MA-Net3 from the list, and click OK.

    3. In the Select MA3 Software Version dialog box, select the desired version from the list, and click OK.

    4. The Connecting dialog box displays while Vision waits to connect with the grandMA3.

    5. In the grandMA3 console or onPC software, click the gear icon to open the Settings (1). In the Menu dialog box, click Network (2).

     

    MAOpenNetwork.png

     

    1. The Network window opens. Select the Vision row in the table (1), and click Invite Station (2).

     

    MANetwork.png

    Auto Interface Selection and Network Setup

    The viz-key allows Vision to join an MA-Net3 session. There are special requirements for connecting to an MA-Net3 network.

    We recommend that you create a physical network just for the members of your MA-Net3 session.

    Note: WLAN is not supported.

    For example, we use the following setup at Vectorworks:

     

    MAInterface.png

    NormalInterface.png

     

    One network interface is used just for the MA-Net3 session. The computer has a static 192.168.X.X class C IP address. A second interface is used for internet access and for other network devices. The computer has a normal Class B IP address with DHCP.

     

    The viz-key uses the Auto interface from the grandMA3. You cannot change this. In the future, MA plans to allow visualizers to change the interface, but this is not currently supported.

    The connection from the Auto interface will be assigned in the following order:

    * Regardless of connection status: If a 192.168 Class C address is found, this interface will be assigned.
    * If interface is connected: And If a 172.x Class B address is found, this interface will be assigned.
    * If interface is connected: And If a 10.x Class A address is found, this interface will be assigned.
    * If interface is connected: And If a 2.x Class A address is found, this interface will be assigned.
    * If none of the above are true, the interface will take the Loopback Address 127.0.0.1.
    

    Note: grandMA3 onPC and Vision can run on the same computer. For best results, run the local loopback. Be sure to follow the auto interface rules. The easiest way to do this is by turning off all network interfaces.

    Windows Firewall Issues

    If Vision cannot update the grandMA3 software connection or join an MA-Net3 session, make sure your computer’s firewall is disabled.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



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    User Feedback


    Rig is stuck on inside of vision. Followed this guide exactly and its still not connected to my ONPc set up. Ive tried multiple IP's and Loop back. When sending the update through MA-NET3. The dialog box inside of Vision close instantly. I never see the "Connecting" dialog box. If anyone could help that would be wonderful.

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    • Vectorworks, Inc Employee

    Which version of Vision are you using?
    Mac or Windows?
    And probably most importantly, do you have the VizKey from MA?

    We have identified an issue with Vision 2023 on Windows that prevents the connection.
    The issue will be fixed in a soon to be released service pack.

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    I have Vision Plus, Apple M1 Max and the viz key 

    Sometimes I can connect them. I can move and change the color of the fixtures but I can't stop them from strobing.

    It looks like the parameters aren't enough 

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    • Vectorworks, Inc Employee

    @Gabo
    Please make sure you have updated to the latest version of Vision.
    We fixed some issues related to the viz-key in the latest service packs.

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